Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x01 - "Brother"

[Zod]

Explain the point, if you please. What? That people who aren't main characters or part of the main cast should get storylines? In a pan acprc driven season with only 13-15 episodes. Please tell me the point.

They don't need story lines. Just an expanded role as compared to season one. Bridge officers should have names, and should respond to orders. Bridge extras we don't need it but Navigation? Communication? I never liked that. Many people didn't like that.

 

[Vger23]

I watched about 90% of the episode without distractions, and it's still laughably stupid eye rolling action schlock that mostly just comes off as a action sci-fi space opera that has little to do with Star Trek at all beyond aesthetics.


Most people are still in their "Woohooo pew pew bing bang" phase of seeing all the VFX. Remember most Trek fans jerked off over even Into Darkness for a few weeks until the action setpiece hype left their brains and they realised it was an atrociously terrible movie. In a few weeks I suspect most will come to the same conclusion with this. They fixed the tone of the show by making it more light hearted, they didn't fix the fact that all the characters come off as immature freshmen engaging in teenage level drama and the writing is blatantly there just to push towards another dumb action setpiece no matter how stupid and contrived.

"Lolol fuck orders, i'm going to do my own thing, I'm cooler than you all, my roommate also told BLAH"
Seriously how could any of you not roll your eyes at this stupid garbage?

Rationalizing a full time hobby with you....or is this relatively new?

 

[Tuskin38]

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LOOOOOOOOOL.

No

 

[Vger23]

They don't need story lines. Just an expanded role as compared to season one. Bridge officers should have names, and should respond to orders. Bridge extras we don't need it but Navigation? Communication? I never liked that. Many people didn't like that.

Every background bridge officer was referred to by name in S1, and every one was given dialogue. Every single one.

So...not getting "the point" still.

 

[oberth]

Why do that when showing some consistency adds continuity and realism to the proceedings?



People who don't like will find a reason to not like.

Shit, it's a real phenomenon.

i like it - a lot - i also like season 1

... it simply disturbes me a bit that in any later (timeline-wise) show orders are (quite navylike) acknowledged.

maybe they drive disco into a rock because detmer didn't hear the order correctly in the series finale and starfleet re-introduces this fine naval tradition

 

[Vger23]

in how many episodes do those bridge extras (who are not part of the main cast) appear - the ones we are talking about appeared in each and every episode so far

What's the point? I don't understand what you expect. They're extras with fucking names. They're not part of the main cast. They're there to enhance the kinetic elements of the primary action and to provide continuity so it's not "random extra #3" at helm every week.

WTF?

 

[Nerys Myk]

action sci-fi space opera

"Action sci-fi space opera" is Star Trek in a nutshell.

 

[Donker]

We must have watched a different Star Trek franchise.

From that other thread, yes, most likely, I think you're getting confused between Star Trek and Star Wars.

"Action sci-fi space opera" is Star Trek in a nutshell.

Yes, please show me all those massive space jump action setpieces cranked up to 10,000 that take upwards of half an entire episode in TNG or even DS9 actually TOS or any other Star Trek show.

I really do wonder if Discovery fans have actually watched other Star Trek shows.

 

[Vger23]

"Action sci-fi space opera" is Star Trek in a nutshell.

No wai brah.

"Philosophical, intellectual exploration of humanity and mature statement on the nature of our utopian future" is Star Trek in a nutshell.

 

[Donker]

Well, thanks for proving that Discovery fanboys just want stupid action schlock with pew pew lasers and actively dislike what made the writing in other Trek shows actually interesting.

 

[Nerys Myk]

From that other thread, yes, most likely, I think you're getting confused between Star Trek and Star Wars.


Yes, please show me all those massive space jump action setpieces cranked up to 10,000 that take upwards of half an entire episode in TNG or even DS9 actually TOS or any other Star Trek show.

I really do wonder if Discovery fans have actually watched other Star Trek shows.

If they had the tech to pull that off on TV in 1966 or any other decade they would have. TV SFX has evolved and grown. They can do more and will. Not sure why "space jumps" are antithetical to Star Trek.

To quote the Great Bird way back in 1967.

Build your episode on an action-adventure frame- work.

And for the record, I've been watching since 1966.

 

[oberth]

Well, thanks for proving that Discovery fanboys just want stupid action schlock with pew pew lasers and actively dislike what made the writing in other Trek shows actually interesting.

1. whom are you talking to?
   
2. you may be even right when it comes to 'fanboys' (whatever insult that might be supossed to be)

 

[oberth]

If they had the tech to pull that off on TV in 1966 or any other decade they would have. TV SFX has evolved and grown. They can do more and will. Not sure why "space jumps" are antithetical to Star Trek.

To quote the Great Bird way back in 1967.

And for the record, I've been watching since 1966.

they might have wanted to, but they hadn't even the funds for proper aliens

 

[Vger23]

If they had the tech to pull that off on TV in 1966 or any other decade they would have. TV SFX has evolved and grown. They can do more and will. Not sure why "space jumps" are antithetical to Star Trek.

To quote the Great Bird way back in 1967.

And for the record, I've been watching since 1966.

But...shouldn't Star Trek be about important stuff....? Like IDEAS? And human evolution?? And making important social comments??

It should NEVER be about fun or excitement. Those things aren't for intellectually superior audiences...like WE!!

And it's not REAL STAR TREK(tm)

 

[DaveyNY]

But...shouldn't Star Trek be about important stuff....? Like IDEAS? And human evolution?? And making important social comments??

It should NEVER be about fun or excitement. Those things aren't for intellectually superior audiences...like WE!!

And it's not REAL STAR TREK(tm)

I believe that Wee ..., describes that particular mindset perfectly.
(as in to micturate a saffron elixir)

 

[Nerys Myk]

they might have wanted to, but they hadn't even the funds for proper aliens

Star Trek's budget was pretty high for a mid Century TV show. I thought the Andorians, the Horta and a few others were rather well done for the time period.

 

[oberth]

Star Trek's budget was pretty high for a mid Century TV show. I thought the Andorians, the Horta and a few others were rather well done for the time period.

how about the aliens most seen onscreen?

 

[Vger23]

Well, thanks for proving that Discovery fanboys just want stupid action schlock with pew pew lasers and actively dislike what made the writing in other Trek shows actually interesting.

We love it. Keep the new stuff coming!!!

 

[thribs]

Why is their turbolifts like a rollercoaster ride? Just how big is in the insides of the Discovery?

 

[Nerys Myk]

how about the aliens most seen onscreen?

Vulcans? They were in every episode. The ears were pretty sweet.