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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x01 - "Brother"

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People sneezing on other people as a joke has been around as long as jokes have been, really. We could argue that the Orville got it from Men In Black? That's the first one that came to me.

No it wasn't, Orville didn't invent sneezing in an Elevator.

But , The Orville is such a unique and original production, filled with its own groundbreaking ideas, characters and settings, how can a derivative pile of iguana feces like DSC NOT ape from it?? It's almost inevitable!! ;)



You know, if so many people didn't love jamming Orville up the rear-ends of DSC fans, the comparison discussions would probably be a lot of fun.


IF.....
 
On a completely unrelated note: They never explained what happened to the red burst, or why Tig Notaro never saw it, despite being stranded there for ages? Or where the asteroid actually came from?

Wonder if they'll turn back and explain that, or if it will remain as a "Mystery box" and the plot moves on passing over that?

This season is about the red burst.
 
In any other show or movie, being sneezed on by a six-foot-tall lizard alien would be cause for alarm and a potential alien infection that will wipe out the crew. Here, it's played for laughs and ignored.

The episode ends with Burnham's leg horrifically impaled on an asteroid in outer space, an injury that will no doubt take her many years of intensive physical therapy to recover from. But this is Star Trek, she's all better in a couple hours.

I love this show.
 
...And why is he a regular on this show? Why is he even a regular for Season Two? He and his two Enterprise officers, along with Michael Burnham, had succeeded in their mission, they should have left. Either Discovery would have found itself with a new captain or Saru could have become its permanent captain. Frankly, he deserves it...
Pike was the one tasked with finding out about the red bursts, and they have yet to do so.

He investigated the one that was still there, but they still have some information about the other six that have dissipated, and since the Enterprise will out of commission for longer than they originally thought, Pike will remain on Discovery to search for more answers to the red bursts.
 
But , The Orville is such a unique and original production, filled with its own groundbreaking ideas, characters and settings, how can a derivative pile of iguana feces like DSC NOT ape from it?? It's almost inevitable!!



You know, if so many people didn't love jamming Orville up the rear-ends of DSC fans, the comparison discussions would probably be a lot of fun.


IF.....

LOL, what a fantasy world
 
I like that. It's like...soft racism to me, unintentional but there, and relatively harmless. Racially clumsy is a good phrase. I hope the white people who made the choice had it pointed out to them and said, 'Oh, I can see how that could be racist; I probably won't do that again,' rather than, 'LOL that's not racist! I am offended by even the idea of it!'

This post is offensively reasonable.:hugegrin:

This season is about the red burst.
On a completely unrelated note: They never explained what happened to the red burst, or why Tig Notaro never saw it, despite being stranded there for ages? Or where the asteroid actually came from?

Wonder if they'll turn back and explain that, or if it will remain as a "Mystery box" and the plot moves on passing over that?

I know. The question is - are the mechanics behind these red-bursts so well thought out that they will retroactively give an explanation why it swapped places with the asteroid - Or are they more of a red-matter plot-McGuffin, where the plot brushes over the logical details to go straigh to the meaty stuff.
 
One would think that even if They had hired a Caucasian or an Asian Woman to play the part, the Vulcan Hairstyle would still have been used.
It's obviously a very important part of the plot for the character.
She LIVES on Vulcan and is desperately attempting to "fit in" therefore, she needs to adapt to the fashion of the time and place.

The thing that needs to change now, is the perception that causality is Always the intent.
Sometimes it's just a necessary part of the story being told and nothing nefarious was ever predetermined.

Jumping to the Isle of Conclusions, has long been shown to involve a very strenuous swim back through strong currents of heartache and at times, embarrassingly misplaced rancor.
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The implication being that black Vulcans have to have the same hairstyle as white Vulcans, that is why the actor who played Tuvok had to wear a ghastly wig.....Not. Your conception is steeped in Eurocentricism and you do not even realise it. A fictional Vulcan with brown skin does not need to have the same hair texture as a fictional Vulcan with white skin. Get it now?
 
They changed Kim Catrall's hair to play Valeris.
They changed Troi/Marina Sirtis' hair to play a Romulan (similar hair to Vulcans).

EDIT TO ADD:
I bet they wanted Jolene Blalock to get the short bob to have hair that looked more Vulcan-like.
If the original Romulans were played by brown actors in the 1960's would subsequent white actors playing Romulans have to wear afro textured wigs?
 
Concern (translation: completely unfounded reaction based on far-too little data):

In the season preview there was still no indication of a lot of away mission action. I hope the choice of filming in Canada hasn't limited their options for budget-conscious location shooting.
 
Yeah, I actually noticed the hair-thing, too.
Though I definitely wouldn't go as far as calling that "racism"! It really was not. This is what I would simply call "racially clumsy".

As in - this is a show made by white people. They straightened the hair because of the traditional look. Not taking into account the connotations - because they probably simply didn't even knew about them. And I guess, had they been aware, they wouldn't have done it this way.

IMO really nothing to "call them out" upon. But giving them a hint about this is probably reasonable.





Yikes. :crazy:
I hope that's not the case.

It's probably more likely than not.
Spock has always been shown to be very much a loner, until joining Starfleet.

Who better for him to go to in getting assistance through his first Pon Farr (most likely in a very NON-sexual thought process), than his foster sister.

My guess is that while they were attempting to process him through it, something bordering on the carnal side occurred, which both embarrassed and scared the two of them.

So much so that they began this years long mutually agreed upon separation.
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The production staff are imposing their real life racial cultural blindness to a fictional world
They're fictional so why does it matter?

If they were doing this to real life human cultures I would understand and be opposed.

But the Vulcans are fictional, so they could be or do anything.
 
If the original Romulans were played by brown actors in the 1960's would subsequent white actors playing Romulans have to wear afro textured wigs?

Guys, I get that you want to have this heated argument about racism in hairstyles, and the outcome probably will have ramifications across the globe, but given that the thread is set up to discuss "Brothers" and not hairstyles encountered in the season premier over a year ago...can we take it somewhere else maybe ?

Please?

It's really fucking distracting and seemingly not on topic.
 
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