Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x01 - "Brother"
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Not a fan of this serialised approach on Star Trek. I’m already getting bored of the red angels storyline and there is as many as 14 episodes about it to go. I found myself cringing at everything that came out of Tilly’s mouth. I didn’t need to see what seemed like 20 minutes of flashbacks about Spock and Burnham. The only plus is the visuals; style over substance.
2/10
2/10
Watched it this afternoon. I voted 8/10 purely as I'm greedy and expect better things. 
I loved it anyway. It was quite a step up from season one, and I hope they sustain it. The show certainly grew a personality in the off-season.
I forgot how amazing the SFX were, and how much I've missed Tilly!
I loved it anyway. It was quite a step up from season one, and I hope they sustain it. The show certainly grew a personality in the off-season.
I forgot how amazing the SFX were, and how much I've missed Tilly!
^^^
Sorry, but this EXACT thing is VERY MUCH TOS/TOS era. (and I loved it just for that. Yes, of course we knew at least one of the two 'extras' with Pike and Burnham was going to bite it - and once the Science guy IGNORED Pike's order to 'tuck in' twice - you KNEW it was going to be him - but as to afterwards, yeah, the 'He's dead, too bad, let's move on...' is VERY TOS. Besides Pike did mention to Burnham when she wanted to rescue him that he already lost one officer today, and didn't want to loose another.
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I agree with this. What Pike said, to me, was enough to satisfy acknowledgement of the loss. They were in a crucial situation. No time or place for eulogies, burials and laughs over drinks.^^^
Sorry, but this EXACT thing is VERY MUCH TOS/TOS era. (and I loved it just for that. Yes, of course we knew at least one of the two 'extras' with Pike and Burnham was going to bite it - and once the Science guy IGNORED Pike's order to 'tuck in' twice - you KNEW it was going to be him - but as to afterwards, yeah, the 'He's dead, too bad, let's move on...' is VERY TOS. Besides Pike did mention to Burnham when she wanted to rescue him that he already lost one officer today, and didn't want to loose another.
I posted this in General Trek a while back. It's a compilation of all Spock actors (minus Welker), with a where-are-they-now discussion. Bad news for one of the child Spocks from TSFS...
https://www.space.com/42420-star-trek-spock-role-every-actor.html
I don't think that his death was played for laughs. They were having an argument about the mission and how he was ignoring her warnings, and he ignored them and got killed. My only small issue was that I thought his death was really telegraphed because they made his character such a cocky jerk.
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Captain's prerogative.
That big of a "Christopher Pike" fan, eh?
Hey the Enterprise Red Shirt with Pike gave the Discovery a compliment as well with:
"Hey, know I know where Starfleet is spending its pennies..."
Which prompted Pike's reply of:
"Hey, covet not thy neighbor's Starship..."
So, I thought it was okay; but recall even from TOS proper; the 'Starship/Constitution Class' was ALWAYS considered special.
From TOS S2 - :Bread and Circuses":
http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/43.htm
So, again, if ANYTHING it's a coda for the era we're in with ST: D (And that's IMO a good thing.)
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wait, I'm confused. So, you're already bored with a storyline that used up 5 minutes of this episode, which is actualöy not that much and less than the usual B-Plot of 90s Trek, BUT you want more substance over style? Are you sure you can handle more substance, because I'm afraid you might get bored with that even faster.
I don't take anything you say seriously.
Mitich is still on the show, she's just playing a different character now.
And they all say the same thing "By the way, the fortune cookies are poisoned."
That big of a "Christopher Pike" fan, eh?
No, see the joke works by subverting your expectations. You're supposed to assume I'm referring to Ethan Peck's Spock, then I throw in the Airiam hashtags at the end, which is where you're supposed to chuckle. Pike wasn't funny enough for the joke.
Just starting to watch the first episode, its a shame no one noted the ignorant racist connotation of natural black hair being something that needs to be tamed. They should have left the young Michael's hair natural in Season 1 and not that false straightened bowl cut. The actress hair looks good in the introduction scene that I just saw.
Folks talk about Toxic masculinity which does exist, well so does Toxic eurocentricism.
Ok the opening credits are coming on now.
Folks talk about Toxic masculinity which does exist, well so does Toxic eurocentricism.
Ok the opening credits are coming on now.
You've never grown a beard and then shaved it off?Still. You're talking about Spock going from this:
To this:
And then to this:
Not exactly linear.
Skepticism is warranted.
Though, visual reboot.. for those who have accepted that.
It's an award for Cat fighting.
How the hell is that racist?
OK, Haters. I'm loving Sarek on this show. I don't see anything that contradicts the < 120 minutes of screen time we saw of him in the last 50 years.
If anything I think his relationship with Burnham informs his relationship with Spock. It seems that Spock is his responsibility first and his child second. Burnham is just his kid. So he and she can actually be closer. Or at least have less in the way.
The way that he answered the question of when he had last spoken with Spock was heartbreakingly matter of fact. It was remarkably emotionless and matter of fact.
Disco still isn't quite scratching my Star Trek itch. But it's at least a watchable show.
EDIT: Oh, for the continuity junkies, they made a point of giving the Cage crew compliment.
Also nice nod that the fortune cookie that Pike finds refs "The Cage".
If anything I think his relationship with Burnham informs his relationship with Spock. It seems that Spock is his responsibility first and his child second. Burnham is just his kid. So he and she can actually be closer. Or at least have less in the way.
The way that he answered the question of when he had last spoken with Spock was heartbreakingly matter of fact. It was remarkably emotionless and matter of fact.
Disco still isn't quite scratching my Star Trek itch. But it's at least a watchable show.
EDIT: Oh, for the continuity junkies, they made a point of giving the Cage crew compliment.
Also nice nod that the fortune cookie that Pike finds refs "The Cage".
This episode was great and a great return to Discovery. Great action and character moments. There is more lighter moments when it comes to the dialogue but not at the expense of the drama and tension which was a concern I had. It fit and worked. This felt like a good evolution of where season 1 was heading and left off. Season 1 hasn't been forgotten and it does still inform a lot of what is happen now with the characters and I'm really happy about that.
I enjoy the more focus on many of the other characters but it wasn't at the expense of Burnham being the lead which made me happy. She's still the main character and I don't think that should change. The episode showed it didn't have to change to give more attention to other characters as well. I always said the bridge crew weren't a focus because that wasn't where the story was located. Now the story is located more on the bridge of course it makes sense we'll see more about the bridge staff.
Can't wait for episode 2!!
I enjoy the more focus on many of the other characters but it wasn't at the expense of Burnham being the lead which made me happy. She's still the main character and I don't think that should change. The episode showed it didn't have to change to give more attention to other characters as well. I always said the bridge crew weren't a focus because that wasn't where the story was located. Now the story is located more on the bridge of course it makes sense we'll see more about the bridge staff.
Can't wait for episode 2!!
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