Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x01 - "Brother"
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It was a fine dynamic, but just to kill him off in a jokey way like that? Again I thought it was but I could do without all the Whedon type dialogue of snarky comments. Tilly can do it, but it seems there needs to be constant speaking rather than a few seconds of silence while they concentrate, it feels a bit like Data doing his comedy in the TNG movies every fucking minute. Looking forward to the rest of the season, ti is a minor complaint.
I thought those lines felt awkward
Pike is very talented. Not only did he win the Rigel Cup, as a brilliant sublight pilot, but he won the highest honor in the medical field, the Carrington Award. In addition to that, he was granted the Legate's Crest of Valor, given out by the Cardassian Central Command.
Maybe they should pay closer attention when they crib info from Memory Alpha.
Maybe they should pay closer attention when they crib info from Memory Alpha.
Haha, I saw that on Twitter. People are already using it was canon proof that the Federation and Cardassians had first contact around the time of TOS.
I gave this episode a 10! This was the feeling I wanted from a Star Trek series, with some good character moments, some good dialogue and nice bits of adventure!
A lot of what I love about it has already been mentioned (the nods in the fortune cookie and Pike saying he's from Mojave!), but something else, to me, has improved:
The music. I really can't remember or recall much of the music from S1, because to me it wasn't that remarkable. However, in this episode, I could get a feeling of the music helping scenes to convey the tone and style. Some felt like the Giacchino scores, complete with placement of the TOS fanfare sprinkled around, played differently depending on the scene.
I agree that Mount put a lot of life into the episode, and the writing and tone had a much more TOS style of the adventure, humor and drama.
Another reason for the 10 was that I have a desire to watch the episode again after watching it twice last night. Not many S1 episodes have that effect on me. I loved it!
A lot of what I love about it has already been mentioned (the nods in the fortune cookie and Pike saying he's from Mojave!), but something else, to me, has improved:
The music. I really can't remember or recall much of the music from S1, because to me it wasn't that remarkable. However, in this episode, I could get a feeling of the music helping scenes to convey the tone and style. Some felt like the Giacchino scores, complete with placement of the TOS fanfare sprinkled around, played differently depending on the scene.
I agree that Mount put a lot of life into the episode, and the writing and tone had a much more TOS style of the adventure, humor and drama.
Another reason for the 10 was that I have a desire to watch the episode again after watching it twice last night. Not many S1 episodes have that effect on me. I loved it!
I didn't see it as done jokingly. Where did you get that? The guy was overconfident, consumed with competing with Burnham (maybe even leftover resentment for the Binary Stars incident) and disobeyed direct orders and he bought the farm. I didn't see any humor there.
Or, in fairness...perhaps we should just pay less attention...?
There is however, an 'Okuda Award'! Which according to M-A was retconned away when TNG-R came out. But now it's back again.
Also here's some screen caps of the awards
https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1086144672890843137
According to Pike, the uniforms they're wearing are the 'new ones'. So maybe we'll see them switch in Season 3 *shrug*
Though how they got them when they were out in Deep Space for 5 years
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The Okuda Award was on an okudagram in TNG as an award for subspace research and engineering sciences. It was retconned out of existence when they converted to HD (replaced by the Tezber Award and the Uyehara Award) but now has been retconned back in. It could be for anything now, since Pike is the only one to canonically have this award.
Possibly at a Starbase visit?
they synthesize the uniforms, so probably command just uploaded the pattern to them.
it was stated in Desperate Hours that Connie crews had the new uniforms but no one else was using them at the time. So far that's consistent with the series.
Sounds like they were in contact with Starfleet, just too far out to make it back in time and ordered to continue its five-year mission. They should be able to just download the specs and start replicating, er uh... fabricating the new uniforms at any time. Why Pike decided to toss on an "old uniform" is beyond me. And why he used to wear turtlenecks, and Kirk's crew will also wear the same turtlenecks in 8 years is a mystery never to be solved.
My thinking is that he wants to show everyone that he's on the same team with the Discovery crew, not someone from a superior ship and rubbing it in. It's what they wear on Discovery, he's been given interim command for this assignment, so he's wearing what they wear.
He was talking about how great at piloting he was and all sorts, then gets hit by a rock. It is straight out of that slapstick type of humour, like Star Trek 5 and the infamous Scotty knocking himself out gag. Not to mention Pike ordered him to and once again, another character gets really snarky. I'd understand if he was a lower member of staff or an inexperience ensign, but he was the science officer.
I am curious why Burnham is in a TOS miniskirt uniform later on. I guess we'll find out.
FYI - Sarek and Burham talked about that in the episode when they were reminiscing about that time. Sarek said Spock revered his mother A LOT (and felt that having a Human sibling might better facilitate Spock experiencing empathy), and the BOTH agreed that failed.
Culber WAS back - in the bit where Stamets was playing an old recorded message about Culber getting them opera tickets - for a form of Opera Stamets disliked; but always went because he'd 'do it for' Culber.Well let's guess guys. Is Stamets REALLY going to leave?And how the heck are they going to bring back Culber?
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Didn't Frank Welker voice Spocks scream in Star Trek III?
Exactly.
The "blues" uniform might be "old" from the perspective of crews serving aboard Constitution-class ships, but it's "current-issue" for the entire remainder of Starfleet, so it makes sense that he'd conform.
It's also likely that he already had the "blues" uniform in his possession.
I don't think she is. The outfit looks more like a dress, and she isn't wearing an insignia. The collar also doesn't match.
I'm pretty sure it's civilian clothing.
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