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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x01 - "Brother"

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Yeah, that moment felt like The Orville. Luckily it was the only one. And guy who that alien sneezed on died anyway. I love that they killed the Blue Shirt.

I got some good Orville vibes from the way that Mount played Pike. It wasn't your traditional, straight-laced Captain. He was very quippy. Haven't seen a captain like that since the Kirk days. Big change from the Jeffrey Hunter Pike... who was very angsty, angry and cerebral.

Though I'm glad they gave him that more serious moment at the end. Shows signs of a more dramatic Pike coming.
 
Not so much sat out as was away in the 5 year mission and Starfleet ordered it to continue its mission as it was so far away it would take too long to return anyway. Perhaps the hope was they could assist the war effort more by discovering new tech/species/potential allies in deep space than by spending a year travelling back to fed space and then likely needing a refit anyway.

My guess is that's why we didn't see any Connie's fighting.

That's the thing I alluded to earlier that I'm glad they addressed the one thing I was wondering about. If the Enterprise was on a five-year mission in the strictest sense, two-and-a-half years heading out, two-and-a-half years heading back, they would be too far away. By the time they got back -- like around now-ish -- the Klingon War was over.

Pike might have something to prove since he wasn't in the war but because he wasn't in the war, he isn't as hardened or as cynical as other Starfleet Officers who would've been through it.

I might as well say this now: I like Season 2 but I like the harsher tone of Season 1 better. That's strictly down to my own personal preferences. Season 2, so far, looks pretty solid.
 
Enterprise is still busted in this ep. Maybe they wanted to show off the bridge set with all the lights on later ;)
It's not entirely impossible that it comes back from repairs looking far more TOS-like than it does now. I thought I spied round nacelles on those ships tugging the big E back for repair work.
 
So it's okay for Pike to be portrayed differently but not Spock?

Make those goalposts dance!

Pike is an ill-defined character. Only appearing in 3 eps. Lots of room for new developments and depth. Nimoy's Spock's story has basically been written, in extensive detail... from The Cage.. till the end. He was a fully-formed and nuanced character.

The two are not the same.
 
Pike isn't really all that different from the way he was portrayed in "The Cage(TOS)." He is more jokey and outgoing but this is three years after the mission to Talos IV and that's a lot of time for a starship captain to get used to his crew and become more at ease, plus the events on Talos IV could have had an emotional impact on him. He's still closer to the Jeffrey Hunter version of the character than the Bruce Greenwood take from the Kelvin Timeline.
 
I might as well say this now: I like Season 2 but I like the harsher tone of Season 1 better. That's strictly down to my own personal preferences. Season 2, so far, looks pretty solid.

I feel the same. As for Pike and his Enterprise crew members, they're nice and witty; but as soon as Season 2 ends, I want them gone.

I got some good Orville vibes from the way that Mount played Pike. It wasn't your traditional, straight-laced Captain. He was very quippy. Haven't seen a captain like that since the Kirk days. Big change from the Jeffrey Hunter Pike... who was very angsty, angry and cerebral.

I hope this blandness doesn't last very long. I know that Anson Mount is capable of more than this. I didn't went through seasons of "Hell on Wheels" for nothing.
 
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We only knew Pike on a very bad day, and then when he was a mute quadriplegic. So, any change in character is almost necessary. Plus, his insistence on not leaving Starfleet officers behind, on going all out on a chance of saving just one, kinda fits a character who suffered a huge loss in crew, even if it was a few years prior.

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I just caught the episode, and I am very, very upset that they recast my favorite character. RIP Airiam as portrayed by the great Sara Mitich. I cannot stand behind Hannah Cheesman's terrible rendition of Airiam.

She also disobeyed Pike's direct order not to state her rank during introduction time. The real Airiam never would've done such a thing.
 
Had no issue with Pike. There were some parts where he looked like he was out of his depth which seems odd for a Connie captain but I’m sure there is a reason for that.
 
Nope he isn’t, because we have 10 years of The character between the Cage and WNMHGB that we know zero about.

Still. You're talking about Spock going from this:
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To this:

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And then to this:

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Not exactly linear.

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Skepticism is warranted.

Though, visual reboot.. for those who have accepted that.
 
We only knew Pike on a very bad day, and then when he was a mute quadriplegic. So, any change in character is almost necessary. Plus, his insistence on not leaving Starfleet officers behind, on going all out on a chance of saving just one, kinda fits a character who suffered a huge loss in crew, even if it was a few years prior.

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I just caught the episode, and I am very, very upset that they recast my favorite character. RIP Airiam as portrayed by the great Sara Mitich. I cannot stand behind Hannah Cheesman's terrible rendition of Airiam.

She also disobeyed Pike's direct order not to state her rank during introduction time. The real Airiam never would've done such a thing.

Down with Faux Airiam!!!!
 
I enjoyed the episode; however, I do miss the days when more thought was put into the graphics. It was not perfect and some of it got silly.

Pike's list of classes could be completed in a semester or two. What did he do for the rest of his time at the Academy?

And, looking at the list of medals, it feels that they grabbed a hodge-podge of commendations, without understanding what they awarded, and one of them was a Cardassian medel (the Proficiency medal), and stated that he somehow earned all of his commendationsin during his time on the ''Enterprise''.
 
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