News Kurtzman To Direct Discovery Season Two Premiere

[F. King Daniel]

Does anyone even care about Kirk's dad? It's just an excuse to get Chris Hemsworth on board for the fourth movie so it doesn't flop. I'd rather see Shatner as Old Kirk if I had to choose but I'd prefer something brand new if a fourth movie ever happens. Let Pine stand on his own without Hemsworth or Shatner. Kirk is his role now.

Kirk's had daddy issues for three movies now, so having him actually meet his father will be closure of a sort on that thread.

Kirk Prime already had two last hurrahs in STVI and VII, I'm really not sure what he can bring to the Kelvin universe that already wasn't done between Nimoy and Quinto's Spocks in '09.

 

[fireproof78]

Does anyone even care about Kirk's dad?

Let me stop you there-yes, I do. I like George Kirk as much as I like Pine's Kirk. I want to see more of George and would love it if he could appear as his Prime counterpart in a future production.

No, I don't think it is about getting "Hemsworth on board so it doesn't flop." The character is interesting and I would like to see more of him.

I may be the only one, and that's fine. But it is a ridiculous argument that "no one cares about this character" automatically means "don't bother."

I don't care about Khan's fate from "Space Seed" and yet we got a sequel to that story. On and on it rolls.

 

[Terok Nor]

Let me stop you there-

Ditto.

 

[Lord Garth]

I'm looking forward to what Quentin Tarantino does.

But, back to Discovery, the reaction to the Season 2 Premiere will be anything but dull. And I can't wait to see the inside of the Enterprise.

 

[Tuskin38]

Ditto.

Then why did you ask?

 

[fireproof78]

Ditto.

Fair enough. You asked a question and I provided an answer. Apologies if it was a rhetorical question.

 

[lawman]

Using either Hemsworth or Shatner in the next Trek movie would almost certainly mean involving time travel in the story yet again. For that reason alone, I'd rather avoid it... I really don't want to see Trek going back to that well yet again.

 

[ALF]

It's just an excuse to get Chris Hemsworth on board for the fourth movie so it doesn't flop.

Maybe they should start putting him in every movie to avoid flops. They can just splice him in like the subliminal messages in Fight Club.

 

[BillJ]

But, back to Discovery, the reaction to the Season 2 Premiere will be anything but dull. And I can't wait to see the inside of the Enterprise.

If they're smart (and all indications are that they are not), the beginning of season two will be the Discovery sailing away from the Enterprise. With Burnham and Sarek exchanging "that was an interesting encounter" dialogue. Promptly followed by blowing Sarek out an airlock and allowing the show to stand on its own.

 

[fireproof78]

Promptly followed by blowing Sarek out an airlock and allowing the show to stand on its own.

Nope. Can't agree to killing Sarek. That would be wrong.

 

[eschaton]

Using either Hemsworth or Shatner in the next Trek movie would almost certainly mean involving time travel in the story yet again. For that reason alone, I'd rather avoid it... I really don't want to see Trek going back to that well yet again.

It could always involve Q mucking around with the multiverse or something. It would give them an excuse to drag Patrick Stewart back in for a cameo at least as well.

 

[Lord Garth]

Promptly followed by blowing Sarek out an airlock and allowing the show to stand on its own.

Just pretend Sarek is someone else, if it's this much of an issue. There's nothing wrong the actor or the concept Burnham having a Vulcan foster-father.

 

[BillJ]

Nope. Can't agree to killing Sarek. That would be wrong.

Just pretend Sarek is someone else, if it's this much of an issue. There's nothing wrong the actor or the concept Burnham having a Vulcan foster-father.

I was being metaphorical.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

I was being metaphorical.

 

[Tuskin38]

If they're smart (and all indications are that they are not), the beginning of season two will be the Discovery sailing away from the Enterprise. With Burnham and Sarek exchanging "that was an interesting encounter" dialogue. Promptly followed by blowing Sarek out an airlock and allowing the show to stand on its own.

Kurtzman hinted at seeing some of the Enterprise's crew.

Though that doesn't necessarily mean we'll see the inside of the ship.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Nope. Can't agree to killing Sarek. That would be wrong.

It's okay, it's still Prime Universe. Dead Sarek fits with canon, since nobody specifically said that he wasn't already dead during his appearances in TOS, and Enterprise already established Zombie Vulcans.

 

[Wowbagger]

While I thought The Mummy reboot was uninspired, I didn't hate it like so many others did. It was dumb fun. Kurtzman will do fine directing Discovery.

*remembers when Bob Orci was rumoured to be directing what became Star Trek Beyond, and wonders what became of him*

Didn't they pretty much throw him under the bus after he yelled at that fan in the TrekMovie comments?

I thought that was a huge overreaction. I didn't like STID either, but boborci had been in the comment threads at TrekMovie for years providing insight, answering questions, and just generally making it clear that somebody in charge of Trek was listening to the fans. Then some fan screams at him, Orci (rightly) puts him in his place, and suddenly the headline on io9 is that Bob Orci hates fans. Lesson to producers: never form relationships or interact with fans, because all the goodwill in the world won't buy you an ounce of understanding the one day you lose your temper. And, sure enough, we haven't had a Trek creator interact with fans on the Internet since. #BringBackBobOrci

EDIT: I like Chris Pine personally quite a bit, but his Kirk is hot garbage. If Abramsverse James T. Kirk were killed off and replaced wholesale with the intelligent, rational, loving hero named George Kirk I would personally host a block party for all my neighbors. Abramsverse George Kirk is a lot closer to what Jim Kirk is supposed to be like anyway.

 

[lawman]

I thought that was a huge overreaction. I didn't like STID either, but boborci had been in the comment threads at TrekMovie for years providing insight, answering questions, and just generally making it clear that somebody in charge of Trek was listening to the fans. Then some fan screams at him, Orci (rightly) puts him in his place, and suddenly the headline on io9 is that Bob Orci hates fans...

You must have read a different version of that exchange than I did. The way I remember it, Orci acted like a complete self-righteous asshat. He didn't just "lose his temper" — in response to some quite reasonable criticism of a terrible movie — he acted out like a spoiled 13-year-old. And then, rather than apologizing, he doubled down and tried to defend it.

At any rate, Trek as a property certainly benefited by dissociating itself from Orci. While in the abstract it's nice to have creators interacting with fans, I think it's more important to have creators who can actually tell good stories, something Orci's body of work conspicuously does not demonstrate.

I like Chris Pine personally quite a bit, but his Kirk is hot garbage. If Abramsverse James T. Kirk were killed off and replaced wholesale with the intelligent, rational, loving hero named George Kirk I would personally host a block party for all my neighbors. Abramsverse George Kirk is a lot closer to what Jim Kirk is supposed to be like anyway.

This, I can agree with. Pine's a decent actor but his Kirk just doesn't work for me. The best part of ST09 was the first five minutes aboard the Kelvin, by far.

 

[fireproof78]

I like Chris Pine personally quite a bit, but his Kirk is hot garbage. If Abramsverse James T. Kirk were killed off and replaced wholesale with the intelligent, rational, loving hero named George Kirk I would personally host a block party for all my neighbors. Abramsverse George Kirk is a lot closer to what Jim Kirk is supposed to be like anyway.

"You failed to understand the purpose of the exercise."

 

[lawman]

Okay, what was the purpose of the exercise? To re-imagine Jim Kirk as someone who was impulsive, reckless, and not particularly bright? How was that an improvement? The original was a far more relatable character than the version played by Pine.