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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x14 - "The War Without, The War Within"

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So... As far as anyone knows, the Discovery was lost in battle. The Mirror Universe is to be kept top secret. Emperor Georgiou is put in charge of the ship and they're sent on this mission to Qo'nos.... Anyone else get the feeling this is a suicide mission, and Cornwell is hoping to take care of all these problems in one fell swoop?
 
Nick Meyer mentioned a while ago that he was working on another Star Trek-related project, but we haven't heard any more about that since then.
I'll speculate that'll turnout to be a 4K retransfer of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. Similar to Wrath of Khan Blu ray with an option to switch from theatrical to Director's.
 
We'll know for sure if the reset button will be used during the Klingon War if at some point in the season finale it's mentioned that the Enterprise was destroyed while the Discovery was gone. Do I think we'll hear that? Nope. But it'd be a surefire way to know what's about to happen at the end of the episode or the start of next season.
 
5/10

Really wanted to like this one after two turds - especially with the slower pace, but I do wonder why so many fans are happy to overlook such poor writing.

Like I said last week, the writers on this show think they are smarter than they actually are. I so wanted to like them for the “this is not who we are” scenes over Ash Tyler, but I couldn’t when Saru and Co simply have no idea whether or not the Klingon is gone from his system. They just trust L’Rell and a quick biobed scan? Oh please.

Then, and this was flat out intellectually offensive, the empress becoming captain. Jesus wept I cringed. How are people making excuses for such garbage? Lesson 101 in how to ruin an otherwise satisfactory episode. This was the most awful “twist” of the entire season. Utter and absolute nonsense. It’s like putting Hitler in charge of the allied forces.

This series is such a mind screw. Just when it gets me on board again it extends a middle finger and treats it’s audience like easily pleased fools. I am amazed so many are giving the shortcomings a pass just because it has modern plot twists and fancy SFX.

If this show truly wants to stand alongside past Trek it needs to get some new writers in and make sure they understand the franchise’s legacy.
 
andorian admiral
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now I need see a female tellarite captain
 
No, they DON'T know that - Burnham never told them who the Emperor was (even Saru is surprised and calls her "Captain" when he first meets her) and apart from Saru, Burnham and the transporter dude her presence aboard was classified. Detmer and other former Shenzou crew just know that Georgiou was believed killed by T'kuvma but there was no body recovered - given what we've seen of Klingon medical tech with Tyler, they might be thinking she could have been revived.

Now, the crew will probably believe Burnham or Saru pretty damn quick IF they reveal Georgiou is the mirror version, but this relies on them disobeying Cornwell's orders.

Good point. I went back to "What's Past is Prologue" and when Lorca is speaking to the Discovery crew, Emperor Georgiou is kneeling and is obscured by another guard. From the perspective of the Discovery crew, all they see is a guard pointing a phaser down at someone next to Burnham.
 
Given that the Federation has a covert intelligence agency that's willing to subvert alien governments and kill its own citizens to accomplish what it sees as the noble goal of protecting the Federation and what it allegedly stands for I'd say that signing off on letting a Mirror Universe tyrant command a starship in a war of desperation against an enemy that's been beating you up until this point falls well within the realm of possibility.

The Federation is a democracy, not a perfect utopia free of hypocrisy and deceit.
 
I'll speculate that'll turnout to be a 4K retransfer of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. Similar to Wrath of Khan Blu ray with an option to switch from theatrical to Director's.
Hmm, I doubt it. Paramount hasn't been in a rush to do nice transfers for any of the other Star Trek films.

This is all the info we have (which is very little lol):

When asked if he was talking about a movie, which is the other new Trek project the public knows about, Meyer vaguely teased that maybe it was another TV show. When the reporter said they assumed there was only the one television project in the works, Meyer replied, “You can assume.”

This was in June though...an eternity ago.
 
5/10

Really wanted to like this one after two turds - especially with the slower pace, but I do wonder why so many fans are happy to overlook such poor writing.

Like I said last week, the writers on this show think they are smarter than they actually are. I so wanted to like them for the “this is not who we are” scenes over Ash Tyler, but I couldn’t when Saru and Co simply have no idea whether or not the Klingon is gone from his system. They just trust L’Rell and a quick biobed scan? Oh please.

Then, and this was flat out intellectually offensive, the empress becoming captain. Jesus wept I cringed. How are people making excuses for such garbage? Lesson 101 in how to ruin an otherwise satisfactory episode. This was the most awful “twist” of the entire season. Utter and absolute nonsense. It’s like putting Hitler in charge of the allied forces.

This series is such a mind screw. Just when it gets me on board again it extends a middle finger and treats it’s audience like easily pleased fools. I am amazed so many are giving the shortcomings a pass just because it has modern plot twists and fancy SFX.

If this show truly wants to stand alongside past Trek it needs to get some new writers in and make sure they understand the franchise’s legacy.
I remember when the federation recruited the most terrible dictator and genocide in the history of the earth to help them defeat the Klingons in a war
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