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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x14 - "The War Without, The War Within"

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Kinda weird that Sarek couldn't have asked Saru's permission rather than just forcing himself on him.
Yeah I thought that....OK Spock did it to Valeris in ST6 but by then it was KNOWN she was a traitor. Sarek didn't know for a fact anything about Saru so I thought he was a tad "forward" in doing that.
 
With all these Enterprise references I wish they made T’Pol an Admiral in this. I know in the novels she retires to raise her children but I’m sure she could be reinstated. Plus the novels aren’t strictly canon to start off with.
Trip threatened her with no more neuropressure if she came out of retirement
 
Yeah I thought that....OK Spock did it to Valeris in ST6 but by then it was KNOWN she was a traitor. Sarek didn't know for a fact anything about Saru so I thought he was a tad "forward" in doing that.
All PU Sarek (and the Admiral) knew before beaming aboard was:

- By all accounts the U.S.S. Discovery was CONFIRMED destroyed by Klingons nine months previous (She herself saw the debris.)

- Suddenly a ship matching the U.S.S. Discovery specs is detected 1 light year from Earth.
 
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Re: the need for Sarek to mind-meld with folks - remember this comes only a few minutes after Tyler tells Saru that Voq was the "test case" for Klingons used to infiltrate Starfleet Command...

Are we sure Cornwell is still who she thinks? She seems awfully keen on visiting L'Rell for advice... and feels a "bond" with her...
 
2. Klingons wipe out an atmosphere of 11b, not 11k, leaving new member race 137 all but extinct. If the federation is a trillion citizens, the death tool needs to hit a number that breaks the audience's sense of scale. VFX of one of the starbases getting destroyed... ideally with a connie inside. Given that Georgio is likely going to attempt genocide, we need enough to have it at least feel like a debatable decision.

This... it would give context to why less then 40 years later Starfleet personnel collude with others in STUC and why peace with the Klingons is such a huge deal.
 
Another joy ride of an episode.

A few questions.

What happened to the rest of the boarding party and a bit surprised that whatever was doing for nine months was just forgotten. What happened to the boarding party and the ship they were on?

What happened with the green spore we saw land on Tilly last week? Did I miss something?

Does Cornwell think the crew are totally stupid. They all knew Georgiou was "The Emperor" in the MU and was dead at Battle of Binary.

Still a great watch.
 
All PU Sarek (and the Admiral) knew before beaming aboard was:

- By all account the U.S.S. Discovery was CONFIRMED destroyed by Klingons nine month previous (She herself saw the debris.)

- Suddenly a ship matching the U.S.S. Discovery specs is detected 1 light year from Earth.

Yeah, I don't blame Sarek for doing a mind meld without asking permission. If this Discovery had not been friendly, asking for permission would not have worked and would have given them time to fight back. Sarek and Cornwell could not take that chance. The quick and direct mind meld gave them the information they needed without any issue.
 
7/10 for me. Felt like too much filler.


Highlights; NX-01 reference & Archer, the spore farming sequence.


Things I don't understand; how Stamments didn't batter the crap out of Ash Tyler and how Saru let him walk around (saboteur alert!).


Finally, how Cornwell gives command to MU Georgeou.


Serious lack of senior leadership in Starfleet. When does Kirk graduate to come in and take charge? No wonder he did it by the age 30-odd with this bunch of muppets in charge! J
 
I wondered about the scene, where the discovery is being borded by the Admiral and Sarek.

They say, that the incoming ship has raised shields and immediately afterwards, the teams beams onto the bridge. Isn’t transport impossible when shields are up?

As I read nothing concerning this in the comments and reviews about the episode, I may have missed something.

What does the hive mind say?
 
Another joy ride of an episode.

A few questions.

What happened to the rest of the boarding party and a bit surprised that whatever was doing for nine months was just forgotten.

I'm assuming the missing words in that sentence are "Mirror Discovery" - she got blown up by the Klingons, as the Admiral explains (though SF assumed it was "our" Discovery).

What happened to the boarding party and the ship they were on?

They left? Probably to take Sarek back home or his next stop.

What happened with the green spore we saw land on Tilly last week? Did I miss something?

No, they haven't followed that up yet. Patience.

Does Cornwell think the crew are totally stupid. They all knew Georgiou was "The Emperor" in the MU and was dead at Battle of Binary.

No, they DON'T know that - Burnham never told them who the Emperor was (even Saru is surprised and calls her "Captain" when he first meets her) and apart from Saru, Burnham and the transporter dude her presence aboard was classified. Detmer and other former Shenzou crew just know that Georgiou was believed killed by T'kuvma but there was no body recovered - given what we've seen of Klingon medical tech with Tyler, they might be thinking she could have been revived.

Now, the crew will probably believe Burnham or Saru pretty damn quick IF they reveal Georgiou is the mirror version, but this relies on them disobeying Cornwell's orders.
 
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