Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x06 - "Lethe"
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I did notice that the Vulcan blood was almost comically green. Almost TOS-like in its hue and texture, though to be fair we rarely saw Spock bleed and I can't remember if the Romulan commander in "Balance of Terror" was bleeding from the face or lips before he died.
"Mr. McGee...don't make me horny. You wouldn't like it when I'm horny."
The Vulcans probably said "Hello" like that 300 times over the course of the first 50 years of their relationship, before they sat down for a meal together respectfully.
Humans are food.
Nothing has changed the Klingon's minds about that yet.
We are creatures of habit.
There was more diversity shown with Vulcans and Romulans in TOS, TAS and the TOS movies, and they had smaller budgets. The TNG one look fits all revamp (copied stupidly by ENT) was lazy thinking IMO.
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I guess they waited on the animals to create fire for them...Gosh how did the hunter gatherer survive to perpetuate the species without science? But they did..
The Romulans had a more diverse look than the Vulcans did. Even during the TOS movie era we saw smooth-headed Romulans while concurrently we were getting Romulans with bowlcuts and cranial ridges on TNG. Nero and his crew in Star Trek 2009 were also smooth-headed and came from the Next Gen era of history, so we know that they coexisted with the dominant caste or ethnicity that has brow ridges.
It's what they put in the green juice to make it extra green.
Klingon Law.
The man owns the woman, and her property.
(Maybe?)
Kol marries Cornwall, Kol owns Starfleet.
Victory is his!
Let the lawyers sort it out.
The man owns the woman, and her property.
(Maybe?)
Kol marries Cornwall, Kol owns Starfleet.
Victory is his!
Let the lawyers sort it out.
Sounds like a sitcom to me. Greenlight that glorious idea before another network steals it!
Additionally, Sarek made it very clear that Burnham should be cautious with the information because it may not apply to Starfleet or to her current situation.
Also, did they give a time frame?
Was first contact between the Klingons and Vulcans 300 years ago, or a thousand years ago?
Klingon technology and psychology has improved greatly in either case.
The same tactics should not stand a chance.
Was first contact between the Klingons and Vulcans 300 years ago, or a thousand years ago?
Klingon technology and psychology has improved greatly in either case.
The same tactics should not stand a chance.
Thank you both. Quite obviously, chain of command is chain of command! So - allow me to make my point again, and also - extend an olive branch to Capt. Lorca.
My point isn't about chain of command - it's about the character of Capt. Lorca, who at the top of the episode, unilaterally decided to mount a rescue simply because his crewmember asked him to do so. There was no chain of command involvement - he simply went off on his own. He previously has been shown to buck direct commands. So... from an emotional standpoint, why would this be different? In fact, why wouldn't this be MORE of an instance of the same - not just because of his personal relationship with the Admiral, but because of the situation itself - which has someone he presumably cares about in exactly the same position he was just in last week (or however much time has elapsed between episodes). As an emotional matter - this is a betrayal of the Admiral. A rather stark one.
OTOH - and here's the olive branch. He JUST got his dressing down from the Admiral about bucking the chain of command, etc - and here is a true test of his willingness and ability to do what regulations require of him in spite of the emotional challenge it presents. And in his desperate effort to show that he is deserving of his command, he resists impulses to be obedient to the structures he's sworn to uphold (and defend). Maybe he's thinking the admiral would be proud of him. Maybe he's thinking she'll get out of her predicament somehow, and then commend him on his better behavior. Maybe he's trying to turn over a new leaf.
I will leave it open for future episodes to resolve.
QT
The difference is, Cornwell is in a (presumably) high security Klingon facility. If Lorca takes Discovery in to get her, there's a chance the ship could be captured, its technology raided, and its crew interrogated. The ship is so valuable to the war effort that they couldn't take that chance.
It would make a lot more sense to send in a capital ship, with a dedicated Starfleet strike team, to rescue Cornwell.
This is likely what the Klingons are banking on. They're probably unaware of the Admiral's relationship with Lorca, but they likely know that Discovery is the only SF ship that can pop in out of nowhere at any given time and would be most likely the one chosen to go get her, setting a trap. I figure they at least know there's something uniquely special about Discovery that they will either attempt to capture and study its science at best. At worst, they'll just flat-out destroy it to remove a major weapon from SF's arsenal.
I believe this is also relevant to Lorca's decision to hold back and not just pop over to rescue the admiral. He knows this, and more importantly, when he says the ship is all he has left, he means it.
That's what I meant with the 'warning her not to act rashly' part, but yes, absolutely.
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