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Discovery and "The Orville" Comparisons

I am looking forward to orville for thebpure pure reason that it looks fun.


Discovery looks like it will be a boring boring political soapbox.
 
I predict that the Orville will be yet another one of those shows that gets cancelled after one season due to lack of popular interest, despite being pretty good, and then gets a release of that single season only on DVD but not on blu-ray for some unfathomable reason, even though the show was shot and broadcast in HD! :scream:

Kor
 
I think the Orville looks fine, too, and I'm willing to like it despite MacFarlane.

Yes, SPN did an episode with basically the exact same premise, only earlier. There is no way, no way MacFarlane came up with something identical on his own (didn't credit it, either, to my knowledge). It's way too specific.

What was it? I haven't seen ted or supernatural, and hear ted 2 is based on measure of a man.
 
Impossible to fully verify, but some general looking around... track the comment... look at the FB profile...lines up the commenter with the Trek era he or she would have grown up in, and it is also helpful that Trek eras are rather easily divided (TOS first run, TOS re-runs/movies, Berman era Trek, Kelvin era films) and neatly correspond to ten/twenty year brackets.

Re-runs and movies Cross over into Bergman era. And that's all much more stalkers than just asking.
 
I swear to God I didn't do that on purpose. Must be second nature at this point. :)

If it makes you feel better, I really wanted to try the librarians, but haven't had time. Parenthood and a lack of TV access for me. I like libraries though....I use one in my aborted novella series Vydershun. That whole pratchett L space thing is great.
 
What gave you that impression?
Because everyone seems to be blathering about diversity and the produces seem to be making that a selling point which smacks of a weak show. A good show with a diverse cast doesnt need to use the diversity as a selling point.


Diversity does not make a show. GOOD STORY TELLING does.
The most IMPORTANT factor is if it is entertaining or not.

Now you you can have entertainment and diversity , and I have no problem with a well rounded cast, what I have a problem is when everything hangs on ticking minority boxes.

And here is a little hard truth to shatter snowflake dreams.
The reason minoritys are minoritys is because......GUESS WHAT! THEY ARE IN THE MINORITY!
So the show being a in a capitalist market where 70%+ of the market are white heterosexual binary gendered like me, needs to entaintain us of we switch off and the show is sunk.

I have no problem with a black female lead, hell i dont think its news worthy, we had sisko my favorite captain before. But if every episode panders to the black market my TV goes off.

I have no problems if gays on TV but if every other episode is about gay issues I find boring my TV goes off.


FUN should be the selling point of a TV program and ENTERTAINMENT .
 
Because everyone seems to be blathering about diversity and the produces seem to be making that a selling point which smacks of a weak show. A good show with a diverse cast doesnt need to use the diversity as a selling point.


Diversity does not make a show. GOOD STORY TELLING does.
The most IMPORTANT factor is if it is entertaining or not.

Now you you can have entertainment and diversity , and I have no problem with a well rounded cast, what I have a problem is when everything hangs on ticking minority boxes.

And here is a little hard truth to shatter snowflake dreams.
The reason minoritys are minoritys is because......GUESS WHAT! THEY ARE IN THE MINORITY!
So the show being a in a capitalist market where 70%+ of the market are white heterosexual binary gendered like me, needs to entaintain us of we switch off and the show is sunk.

I have no problem with a black female lead, hell i dont think its news worthy, we had sisko my favorite captain before. But if every episode panders to the black market my TV goes off.

I have no problems if gays on TV but if every other episode is about gay issues I find boring my TV goes off.


FUN should be the selling point of a TV program and ENTERTAINMENT .
ooookay.
 
Knowing McFarlane, there'll be a shit load of Captain's log toilet jokes.



This. Exactly this. I'll put this down for posterity now. I think The Orville will last longer than Discovery.

Or it's success will see a tng era show get made. Orville did that's nice TNG research team of the week thing well. And it's keying into something.
 
Took the words from my mouth.

See...I too am on the oooooookay side of this fence. But there's a kernel in there that I can't ignore...the ghostbusters reboot was crap, and was sold on its diversity shtick.
The good news is...DSC actually isn't....so I too can now form part of this barbershop quartet, having got that out of the way.
Oooooooooookay
 
See...I too am on the oooooookay side of this fence. But there's a kernel in there that I can't ignore...the ghostbusters reboot was crap, and was sold on its diversity shtick.
The good news is...DSC actually isn't....so I too can now form part of this barbershop quartet, having got that out of the way.
Oooooooooookay
Ghostbusters didn't fail because of diversity, it failed because Sony is an awful studio and put out a terrible product. Sony hasn't had a decent movie in years. They also wrecked Spider-Man and James Bond.
 
Ghostbusters didn't fail because of diversity, it failed because Sony is an awful studio and put out a terrible product. Sony hasn't had a decent movie in years. They also wrecked Spider-Man and James Bond.

I didn't say it failed because of the diversity. I said it used its diversity (and the brouhaha) as advertising. (Seriously. I was rewtweeted by feignfirmcoming out in support of liking its later trailer and confirming I was hopeful.) I don't think I can even blame Sony...ok...actually I can. It was a bad bad movie. And poor feig just didn't get Ghostbusters. And the film was... pretty much not pro minority. As in it was borderline rascist, mysoginist and misandrist. It was nihilist?
 
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