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Thoughts on New Star Trek Series?

Ideas?

  • Robert April and the Enterprise

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  • Captain Worf and the ???

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  • Captain (Crusher) Picard and the Pastuer

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  • Abrams Mirror Universe

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  • Captain LaForge and the Challenger (Galaxy Class)

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  • Enterprise-C

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  • Enterprise-B

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  • Enterprise-A

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  • Pike and 1701 Enterprise

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  • Total voters
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I've always wanted them to make a show about a Klingon ship. Not gonna happen but would have been interesting.
I had a crazy idea once, an entire episode told from a Romulan point of view ( Klingon would work too). The regular cast would play the crew hidden by make up. Klingon might be better for that.
This was back when Enterprise was on the air and I created pic where I Photoshopped the cast into Romulans.
 
I think given the people involved we can pretty much rule out continuity porn series that will mean something only to lifelong fans.
Or they could absolutely pack the new series with "continuity porn."

Because as you yourself point out cultcross, it won't mean anything to the new viewers and they will (well maybe) think it's just normal universe building like all new series get. Science fiction series usually have a created back story, so why not use the one that is already there?

The new fans (again) won't know the difference.

The old fans on the other hand will see it for what it is which is respect, easter eggs and continuity porn. Resulting in established fan jumping and clapping in their living rooms.

And if the new fan should take enough of a interest in Star Trek to look at the older shows, they'll see the same universe they saw in the new series. How about that?
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I think it's safe to assume that the crew will probably be entirely new characters. The sensible option (to avoid unnecessarily complicating things) would probably be to set it now, by which I mean at the same time as what's happening with the films.

Just have it be a new crew who went on their own five-year mission but in a completely different direction to the Enterprise.
 
I haven't been keeping up with any developments with the new series so that is the context of my thoughts about the new show.

For me, I would like to see a show set in the Prime trek universe (TOS-TNG-DS9-VOY). Premise wise I don't mind if it is on a ship, station or something else. As long as continuity is respected and built upon rather than ignored or perverted like what happened with Enterprise or the JJ verse.

I recently watched a dramatised documentary series about the rise and fall of Rome and I thought at the time that this could be a unique approach to a trek series, allowing for multiple different stories set on different ships (doesn't have to be a ship) with different crews in the trek universe. Each story could encompass 5-6 episodes, and doesn't have to be restricted to a single time period.
 
You know, the whole thing about the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica was that the makers clearly liked the original, but wanted to re-tell it with a somewhat different sensibility. More to the point, they did it well. Just to give you an idea how horrible it could have gone--imagine Leslie Nielsen as Adama, Pamela Anderson as Starbuck and Taylor Lautner as Apollo (and that is just for starters).

What has this got to do with Star Trek 2017? Give a minute.

I'm a theatre critic and literally see a hundred or so plays a year. Many times I go see versions of Shakespeare. Classics! But I find myself most enjoying those productions that give the plays a new "twist" that doesn't change the play so much as make it even more itself--throwing everything into sharp relief. Last summer there was an amazing version of Romeo & Juliet simply called R&J because they had switched the gender of every single character! The familiar became suddenly achingly more vivid as we saw a gang of teenage girls try (and sometimes succeed) in killing each other with knives, while a teenage boy's birthday party is explicitly a meat market where older women size him up for deflowering. It didn't change the play, but did make it fresh in the audience's eyes. At the same time--this is crucial--they did it well. It was a good production of the play either way, with some amazing performances and startling choices along the way (just as having Julian wake immediately as Romea, having drunk the poison, kissed him).

I've also seen failures. An Othello with an all-black cast save for the title character was just...dull. Because that choice was just change for change's sake, and worse, they didn't do it well anyway.

But that is what I want for Star Trek 2017. I want to be startled, so the world of Starfleet and the Federation, of the Vulcans and Andorians and Klingons, etc. seem entirely new. How? Ideas are a dime a dozen. An experimental starship design that remains in service but isn't going to be continued, which in the wake of the Dominion War is crewed with a bunch of semi-misfits then sent deep into uncharted space. That's one. A show focusing on young officers in one way or another related to a variety of famous figures to us (Ensign Lydia Kirk, Spock's son Sarok, Geordie's grandmother, etc.) working their way up. A colony of dissidents whose planet turns out to be important for some reason and so gain a permanent Starfleet presence. Whatever...just tell good stories with good characters played by good actors. Make me care, wonder what will happen next, fear for the lives of the regulars.
Agreed.

If most people here got what they wanted, it'd be a seven-season episodic series focused on the Enterprise-W gallivanting around the Banana Quadrant in a war with the Borg.

Unfortunately, that would crush the series right before it even stands up on its own two feet.

New and fresh is good. It may not be the safest option, but it definitely has the greatest reward. I don't know if I'd want a series with that many past familial connections, but I definitely agree with everything you said in your first four paragraphs.
 
Ideally I'd like it to ditch Star Trek and be it's own show about a starship exploring the final frontier. Barring that, I'd like it to just not exist.
 
Ideally I'd like it to ditch Star Trek and be it's own show about a starship exploring the final frontier. Barring that, I'd like it to just not exist.

So don't watch the show. There are other Space Operas out there you cant watch instead.
 
I'm going with "Other."

It can't be Captain Sulu and the Excelsior. So much time has passed IRL that the character would have to be a fleet admiral at Starfleet headquarters by now.

And there's no need to bash the Abrams movies in the poll. :rolleyes:

Kor
 
Robert April and the Enterprise

The adventures of a one-off, generic bit-character, from a children's series that even most Trek fans haven't watched ! Pass.

Riker and the Titan

Goddamn Riker and his stupid smug face. No.

Sulu and the Excelsior

Am I the only one who actually watched Flashback? Why won't this concept die already?

Continuation of (bad) Abrams Universe

Very mature. But as I don't care what universe it's set in, that pretty much leaves...


So long as 'other' doesn't include 'Captain Worf.'
 
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Perhaps a closer look at Earth Life in Federation times? Not leaving out Space Travel, of course, but, perhaps a look at Society from a Legal or Cultural perspective. "Star Fleet: Legal", or "UFP: Genesis"...something along those lines?
 
Am I the only one who actually watched Flashback? Why won't this concept die already?
George Takei wouldn't let it die, that's why. He was really the only ex cast member making noise about returning, as well as being the only original cast member who canonically has their own ship and crew who could star in their own show. The fans went along with it for ages. It was never a good idea, frankly, and it got less and less good as time passed.
 
Don't care what universe it's set in. At all. As long as they tell compelling stories. In the interest of that aim, I think it'd be better to 'start from scratch' and avoid established characters, and the potential for fan- and continuity-wank.

I trust Brian Fuller et al. to come up with something better, but if you held a gun to my head and demanded a concept, it would be: 'On the 26th century, a radically changed Federation goes intergalactic.' Be it through a generational colony ship, cryogenic freezing, artificial worm holes, time-stopping magic, whatevz, the first Federation explorers reach the Andromeda Nebula. In absence of The Chase-established humanoid DNA seeding, the species encountered here are radically more alien, in every possible way - to match enhanced options yielded by modern FX.

Kinda Voyager-ish, but folks would be there exploring the Frontier on purpose.
 
I selected "other." New adventures, completely original ship and crew, just throw in some familiar elements and avoid slavish adherence to "canon" or "continuity" and everything will be just fine.
 
Regarding David Blue's comments.....

Leslie Nielsen played the captain of a starship in Forbidden Planet, and did it well. A serious role, very different from his later comedic roles.
 
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