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Kira as the only female cast member in Season 7

I've long heard the story of Harry Kim being the original character on the chopping block. If Seven HAD been male, would he have worn a skin tight costume too?

Based on the general reaction to Decker's money shot, I'd guess no...
 
I've long heard the story of Harry Kim being the original character on the chopping block. If Seven HAD been male, would he have worn a skin tight costume too?

Probably. Parrises Squares outfits leave nothing to the imagination. And voyagers rock-climbing onesies are pretty tight too. Oh.. And we noticed data's nipples in his farpoint uniform on all good things on a recent rewatch.

The real question, is would Brannon Braga have dated him, and then years later write a comic that has him reassimilated, mutilated, torn in half and appear nude wrapped around Picard. (in fairness, they may have been down to the other comic writers and artist. But...)

Did One Have a Onesie? He wasn't entirely borg standard issue hardware and latex. And the doctor didn't do his hair.
 
Torn in half?

She turned into a literal cyborg Scorpion.

And the only way that Picard and Seven being so in each others junk is about Brannon, is that not so deep down, Branon considers himself (as the writer for all those decades) the real Jean-Luc Picard.
 
Torn in half?

She turned into a literal cyborg Scorpion.

And the only way that Picard and Seven being so in each others junk is about Brannon, is that not so deep down, Branon considers himself (as the writer for all those decades) the real Jean-Luc Picard.

Data rips her scorpion arse off. After becoming SuperMechaDataMon
 
Now you start me thinking, Dax character being regenerated and the symbiont changing hosts. This might be fun.

In order to solve the matter with the female dogs once and for all, one of the Dax hosts can be an Antican. Some clever doctor, no other hosts around, technobabble a la Voyager and voila. It can be a female Antican in Starfleet uniform so that each frustrated feminist can see her dreams come true. It can also be a black female Antican holding her own against white male Anticans and humans and this will appeal to the color-sensitive campaigners. That way the film producers can fill in two quotas – the racial and the feminist one.

At the same time, the male audience will be able to call the creature “stupid female dog” without being charged with misogyny.

The creature will be totally unattractive in human terms because actresses like Jeri Ryan and Terry Farrell were too sexy and the average obese couch potato felt depressed. Women are put under pressure because they can’t look like that and men simply can’t afford such women. No sex, please, we are Starfleet. Ezri had sex with Worf and Bashir, in fact characters who have sex die. You know the trope.

The best part is that children will love it, the way they love Chewbacca.
 
Did kids watch TV because of what's in the TV looks like what's in their toychest, or did they play with toys because what's in their toychest looks like what's in the TV?

Deep Space Nine toys may have existed, but if those collectibles had ever accidentally made their way into a TOYS'R'US, something must have gone terribly wrong with the Universe.
 
Did kids watch TV because of what's in the TV looks like what's in their toychest, or did they play with toys because what's in their toychest looks like what's in the TV?

Deep Space Nine toys may have existed, but if those collectibles had ever accidentally made their way into a TOYS'R'US, something must have gone terribly wrong with the Universe.

My toddler plays with ds9 toys. Somewhere in a box in a loft, I may even have a 12 inch high Kira that came in a bundle.
 
Have you tried to explain the relationship between those toys and your DVDs yet?
He watched ds9 when he was tiny, and the odd video on YouTube with starship battles. There are episodes suitable for kids, and he knows a galor class from a nebula class lol. He's not going to watch much of season 7 now he's big enough to understand what's going on though. Changeling transformation is referred to as Odo beans. But we are digressing. There's a thread in general about Trekkie parenting.
 
Did kids watch TV because of what's in the TV looks like what's in their toychest, or did they play with toys because what's in their toychest looks like what's in the TV?

Deep Space Nine toys may have existed, but if those collectibles had ever accidentally made their way into a TOYS'R'US, something must have gone terribly wrong with the Universe.
My 9yo and I play Star Trek Attack Wing with a mostly DS9 set of ships. And yes, he knows the series quite well. He just loves Science Fiction.
 
I'd love to see a new Dax in the new series. Having all the memories of Curzon, Jadzia and Ezri along with a few post Ezri hosts would be a great way to incorporate the past into the present.

Keiko was never going to be a regular. They asked Rosalind Chao before the series started but she declined to be a main character. Of all the possible choices she probably would have worked best as a replacement for Jadzia but by Season 7 Keiko was largely irrelevant as a character.
 
I'd love to see a new Dax in the new series. Having all the memories of Curzon, Jadzia and Ezri along with a few post Ezri hosts would be a great way to incorporate the past into the present.

Keiko was never going to be a regular. They asked Rosalind Chao before the series started but she declined to be a main character. Of all the possible choices she probably would have worked best as a replacement for Jadzia but by Season 7 Keiko was largely irrelevant as a character.

Can you imagine if she became host for an episode or two riker style? Poor O'brien
 
If Rosalind was going to be a main character, I imagine the affair with Julian being a little more obvious, or her kids having health problems.
 
Now you start me thinking, Dax character being regenerated and the symbiont changing hosts. This might be fun.

In order to solve the matter with the female dogs once and for all, one of the Dax hosts can be an Antican. Some clever doctor, no other hosts around, technobabble a la Voyager and voila. It can be a female Antican in Starfleet uniform so that each frustrated feminist can see her dreams come true. It can also be a black female Antican holding her own against white male Anticans and humans and this will appeal to the color-sensitive campaigners. That way the film producers can fill in two quotas – the racial and the feminist one.

At the same time, the male audience will be able to call the creature “stupid female dog” without being charged with misogyny.

The creature will be totally unattractive in human terms because actresses like Jeri Ryan and Terry Farrell were too sexy and the average obese couch potato felt depressed. Women are put under pressure because they can’t look like that and men simply can’t afford such women. No sex, please, we are Starfleet. Ezri had sex with Worf and Bashir, in fact characters who have sex die. You know the trope.

The best part is that children will love it, the way they love Chewbacca.

Female dogs? Really? Yeah, that'd still be misogynistic no matter how you try to be cute about it.

A touch of hyperbole I grant you, but while I have extreme distaste for the modern brand of third wave feminism, and it's misandrist tendencies, I also have extreme distaste for the misogyny that rears opposite it.

Epic false equivalence. What did third wave feminism ever do to you? "Misandrist tendencies"??

Also, the noisy, political, unpleasant Anita Sarkesian types of feminism just didn't exist in the 90s the way they do now, the internet didn't have the pressure it does now, and there's no reason consideration of such pressures would have had any bearing on the show.

Sounds like you've never actually watched or read anything Sarkeesian has done.

Am not going to participate anybfurther in the thread, because its hypocritical to complain about one side of the argument whilst behaving like the worst examples of its opposite.

Good.
 
Female dogs? Really? Yeah, that'd still be misogynistic no matter how you try to be cute about it.

Indeed, some dogs will always bark up the wrong tree. Bitchiness is not a matter of gender but mentality. Such people often resort to storms in a teacup and imaginary social crusades.
 
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