CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Here's a question.
Alec indicated last year that the Kickstarter for the "These Are the Voyages" books by Marc Cushman would give part if its proceeds to the production of Axanar.
The total amount of money in the Kickstarter for Axanar is $638,471 and the same number appears in the Annual Report.
Which is all well and good, but...
...there is no mention of the These Are The Voyages monies in the Axanar Annual Report.
Where did that money go? And more importantly, why isn't it being included in the general report?
I get that it might not be money that was donated directly from fans to help pay for Axanar, but it's still money that was earmarked for that purpose.
Why would Peters omit this information if he in fact is presenting a true account of his accounting and finances for the production of Axanar?
Alec indicated last year that the Kickstarter for the "These Are the Voyages" books by Marc Cushman would give part if its proceeds to the production of Axanar.
The total amount of money in the Kickstarter for Axanar is $638,471 and the same number appears in the Annual Report.
Which is all well and good, but...
...there is no mention of the These Are The Voyages monies in the Axanar Annual Report.
Where did that money go? And more importantly, why isn't it being included in the general report?
I get that it might not be money that was donated directly from fans to help pay for Axanar, but it's still money that was earmarked for that purpose.
Why would Peters omit this information if he in fact is presenting a true account of his accounting and finances for the production of Axanar?
Ha ha... The author just made a few changes and published it (most copies are sold in germany!) and then stops people making fanfiction versions... Maybe the first case of fanfiction being blocked by fanfiction
I agree with your points here; but I'm pretty sure Mr. Peter's response would be:
"I promised the Axanar KS Backers I'd produce a report that shows where their KS money went. I did EXACTLY that."
Forgive me if this has already been discussed in the thread somewhere...but if a film festival, or any other public forum shows Prelude at this point, would that film festival be in danger of getting some sort of legal notice?
Heyyyyy....I'M in Albuquerque! Maybe I should go.
[Sees $10 ticket cost for the double bill Axanar and "Star Leaf"]
Eh. Maybe not.
I'm a little worried about fanfic too because there's so much of it. Plus, I'm also worried about people who play in online roleplaying games set in the Trek universe (and the tabletop players too). I'm not too sure about them because CBS/Paramount does have officially licensed roleplaying products.
Won't he have to account for it on the Non-Profit filing?
Mind if I use that?
Not only do I remember that, here's a screen grab I took of the post. For clarity, this post was from October 30, 2014 around the time the "These Are The Voyages - Season 3" Kickstarter started. The goal was $20,000 and they received $45,425.
Neil
Well, been working on this thread for three days and I'm only on page 126. Interesting by-product: I was watching the documentary about Tim Burton's aborted "Superman Lives" project, who pops up; Rob Burnett. My reaction due to the events of the last week was pure revulsion. Everything he said, valid or not struck me as disingenuous. He has lost all credibility... kind of sad.
This is like watching the absolute worst film ever made. The two-bit caricature of a villain self destructs in the strangest, most illogical ways possible while constantly pontificating upon his own greatness (and incidentally, revealing his secret evil plan). The writer just wants the opportunity to use a character, line, or effect that otherwise means nothing in the grand scheme.
This supposedly ruthless villain is so very obviously setting himself up for a fall, for no apparent benefit to himself. There's no suspense because the outcome is a foregone conclusion, and the hero never has any difficulty whatsoever in stopping his dastardly plans. "Why would he do that?" the viewer always asks. "That's so obvious! Everyone knows that will blow up in his face! A real villain would never do that!"
Unfortunately for us, this particular film appears to have been written, directed, and starred in by Alec Peters, and it isn't a film at all.
I can't help but pity him a bit. Of course, if a miracle occurs and he wins, I'll owe him an apology for this post, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
This supposedly ruthless villain is so very obviously setting himself up for a fall, for no apparent benefit to himself. There's no suspense because the outcome is a foregone conclusion, and the hero never has any difficulty whatsoever in stopping his dastardly plans. "Why would he do that?" the viewer always asks. "That's so obvious! Everyone knows that will blow up in his face! A real villain would never do that!"
Unfortunately for us, this particular film appears to have been written, directed, and starred in by Alec Peters, and it isn't a film at all.
I can't help but pity him a bit. Of course, if a miracle occurs and he wins, I'll owe him an apology for this post, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
"A portion of the sales price goes directly to the film-makers of Axanar."
Notice the language. Your donation goes "to the film makers", not necessarily to the film production. And who IS the film maker??
Notice the language. Your donation goes "to the film makers", not necessarily to the film production. And who IS the film maker??
And yet... the These Are The Voyages Kickstarter did give Axanar money. Per this post from January 9, 2015 (nearly a year ago exactly):
Peters himself admitted that Axanar got "a few thousand" from it himself!
Burnett lost credibility a long time ago, long before his involvement in AXANAR. He's always been a blowhard.
Not only do I remember that, here's a screen grab I took of the post. For clarity, this post was from October 30, 2014 around the time the "These Are The Voyages - Season 3" Kickstarter started. The goal was $20,000 and they received $45,425.
Neil
The Annual Report also does not disclose any monies raised via the donor store (beyond what was applied to Prelude to Axanar) or any other ventures (i.e. Axanar coffee).
I wonder of CBS is reading any of this?
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