Jury, meet the smoking gun. Smoking gun, this is the jury.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Only if your honest day job was being an Elvis impersonator.
Makes you wonder though: Would producing an independent Star Trek film without CBS' consent constitute evidence of "mental illness" with this judge?
Indeed. This has been my point for days. It's a commercial enterprise that trades on the goodwill of the Star Trek brand, no more, no less.
And the trip of it is Alec Peters freely admits he's using CBS/Paramount IP in the FAQ of his Axanar home page.
Those coffee bags are $15.95 a pop so Alec's argument he isn't charging for IP that doesn't belong to him is a lie.
Hansa Coffee Roasters, based near Chicago, have their logo on the bags of Axanar coffee. Couldn't that mean trouble for them, too? Wonder about the details of the agreement between Hansa and Axanar. Did Axanar ship them labels and the coffee was bagged and labeled by Hansa? Also, doesn't this make Axanar a retailer of Hansa coffees? Their prices are within a dollar or equal to the prices on the Hansa site. A portion goes to the film, probably the difference between the wholesale price they paid Hansa (with crowdsourced money, no doubt) and the retail price. So, the profits from the sale of the coffee go to the movie. At least that's how it looks to me.
In any case, it might be a good idea for the good folks at Hansa to talk to a lawyer. Soon.
In any case, it might be a good idea for the good folks at Hansa to talk to a lawyer. Soon.
"Your honor, CBS and Paramount have no opening statements - or case prepared. We're just going to call Peters to the stand and let him talk for 15 minutes."
You know, I still can't fathom why a 20 min talking head greenscreen short film and one 3 minute Vulcan scene is greeted (to the axanauts /axanorks or whatever they are called) like the second coming, that Peters etc "get" Star Trek more than anyone else.
It was okay. Not outstanding but okay. The Fx looked good but surely that's Tobias Richter. Am I the only one that thought the costumes looked cheap? And that Richard Hatch looked ridiculous?
Don't watch a lot of fan films but much preferred all the New Voyages / Continues stuff.
If Paramount / Cbs wanted to shut down those guys I could at least understand the anger. They would be shutting down something that actually exists.
It was okay. Not outstanding but okay. The Fx looked good but surely that's Tobias Richter. Am I the only one that thought the costumes looked cheap? And that Richard Hatch looked ridiculous?
Don't watch a lot of fan films but much preferred all the New Voyages / Continues stuff.
If Paramount / Cbs wanted to shut down those guys I could at least understand the anger. They would be shutting down something that actually exists.
Seriously. That would be all it would take.
I believe a few pages back someone mentioned that Hansa approached Peters with free samples and then Axanar asked them to produce the coffee. So my take is that Axanar and Hansa are in business together, making a profits from the CBS IP.
He does, doesn't he?! Unfortunatley, even a million bucks can't compensate for “no talent”.And that Richard Hatch looked ridiculous?
That's not a "take", that's fact.
The ONLY way I could see this working at all is if Hansa is simply eating the cost of the coffee, and anything beyond their cost goes to Axanar. So let's say each 1 pound bag of coffee costs Hansa $7.95 in actual product, packaging, and labor to produce. Then I suppose they could give all $8 per bag, beyond their cost, to Axanar as the "donation" part of it. That way there's no "profit" involved in the transaction, but that's not what the disclaimer is really saying.
I think part of it is that Peters will have to prove every dime that got "donated" to Axanar, was spent on Axanar.
I hope he kept pristine records and has all his receipts!
Just thinking... Does anybody live near to the Ares Studios? Maybe somebody could drive past and see whats happening
He does, doesn't he?! Unfortunatley, even a million bucks can't compensate for “no talent”.And that Richard Hatch looked ridiculous?
Commander Kharn "The Best Set of Klingon Pearly Whites this Side of Khitomer" the Undying
I don't think where he spent the money is at issue here... I mean as of now, Axanar Productions is still a domestic stock corporation owned by Alec Peters... How much in assets was he able to amass in that corporation... I just wish that there would be some movement on the injunction...
He does, doesn't he?! Unfortunatley, even a million bucks can't compensate for “no talent”.And that Richard Hatch looked ridiculous?
He does, doesn't he?! Unfortunatley, even a million bucks can't compensate for “no talent”.And that Richard Hatch looked ridiculous?
Commander Kharn "The Best Set of Klingon Pearly Whites this Side of Khitomer" the Undying
Captain Apollo had a bad hair day...
This all happened just a few weeks too late, or I might have gone and tried to interview them or something. Unfortunately, I moved out of the Los Angeles area a few weeks before Christmas.
I'd give real money if he'd shut up.
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