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FOX: Sleepy Hollow - Season Discussion

Well I'm only going to watch the Sleepy Hollow part of the crossover, I'm not to give up Heroes for a week. As for this week's ep. it's nice that they allowed Jenny so step up and get more attention this week. They're also getting around to all kind of legends now, I guess the'll tackle the New Jersey Devil, a vampire and a wolfman this season as well as Jack the Ripper and the tooth fairy.
 

That interview actually piques my curiosity about the crossover, since I'm interested by the logistical and storytelling challenge of doing the first half without acknowledging the supernatural, yet still making it compatible with the second half. Still, it sounds like the kind of thing where you could easily skip either part and just stay with whichever series you prefer to watch.
 
I actually rather dreading this. I just hope it's not as horrible as I fear it will be.

As bad as the Magnum / Murder, She Wrote crossover? I sincerely doubt it (and thank goodness CBS decided to leave The Equalizer out of that one at the last minute) :lol:
 
But those series are thematically compatible. I'm wondering how they will integrate the hyper-rational world of Temperance Brennan with the fantasy world of Ichabod Crane-- or if they will just avoid the whole issue. Ultimately, it doesn't matter to me personally, since I really only care about Sleepy Hollow, and there's no problem integrating skeptics into a fantasy scenario.

Unfortunately, it seems that only Booth and Brennan will be part of the Sleepy Hollow episode-- I was really hoping to see Angela and Jack.
 
Well, the character of Booth would be willing to believe. That's been demonstrated in the show. The problem is that the crossover introduces through inference that magic/mysticism exists in the Bones universe. Which is very contrary to the up until now setting of the show.

It actually undermines the very conceit of Bones that science can solve all of these murders. If magic works then they can no longer be sure of their findings. Unless Bones decides to add a witch to the cast. Oh! maybe they can promote Cyndi Lauper to series regular.
 
Wihile trying to understand how Bones and Sleepy Hollow can exist together lets remember Bones is a fantasy series already....

Because in the "real world" Crime investigation does not works like it does on Crime shows like Bones...computers and other tools of investigation don't do the incredible things they do on those type shows in fact its almost magical how they work..so Bones being set in the magic world of Sleepy Hollow really isn't that much of a stretch.:cool:
 
Wihile trying to understand how Bones and Sleepy Hollow can exist together lets remember Bones is a fantasy series already....

Because in the "real world" Crime investigation does not works like it does on Crime shows like Bones...

I'll have to take your word for it. I haven't watched Bones since, I think, its first season.
 
Wihile trying to understand how Bones and Sleepy Hollow can exist together lets remember Bones is a fantasy series already....

Because in the "real world" Crime investigation does not works like it does on Crime shows like Bones...

I'll have to take your word for it. I haven't watched Bones since, I think, its first season.

All crime drama shows are like that so if you watched one you seen the unrealistic abilities they all show..which I don't mind..you don't really watch these kind of shows for showing you how criminal investigation actually works.
 
Wihile trying to understand how Bones and Sleepy Hollow can exist together lets remember Bones is a fantasy series already....

Because in the "real world" Crime investigation does not works like it does on Crime shows like Bones...computers and other tools of investigation don't do the incredible things they do on those type shows in fact its almost magical how they work..so Bones being set in the magic world of Sleepy Hollow really isn't that much of a stretch.:cool:


That's not how world building works though. Bones has an established premise that science can do almost magical things to solve a case. That's not nearly the same as having elements from a more fantastical setting suddenly show up. What would happen to Bones if they suddenly found that magic users could force people to die from a thousand miles a way with voodoo dolls? If tamed dragons started showing up to kill people?

You set the rules for a world and work within those rules. merging Bones and Sleepy Hollow (not to be punny) breaks Bones.
 
Maybe each episode will take place in its own respective show's continuity, and the opposite crossover episode doesn't exist?
 
Maybe each episode will take place in its own respective show's continuity, and the opposite crossover episode doesn't exist?

No, I get the impression there's a continuing thread connecting them -- that the purely forensic case in the Bones part will set up the supernatural crisis in the Sleepy Hollow part. However, I'm sure it'll be designed to work both ways -- each part able to stand on its own within the context of its own universe, but with the two parts also having enough of a link to work as a combined story. That's the way you'd usually approach a crossover like this, because you need the parts to work both as a shared whole and as self-contained parts at the same time (since not everyone will watch both parts, and since they'll be separate in later reruns and video releases).

That's what's got me curious about this, in fact. As a writer, I'm interested in the creative challenge of making two stories work in two different ways at the same time -- both as separate stories in distinct universes with distinct rules, and as two halves of a single story in a shared reality. Finding the right balance between two conflicting goals is something writers often have to do, especially in crossovers or shared universes, and it might be interesting to see how -- or if -- they manage to pull it off.

I'm just hoping it won't be as awkward as the Eureka/Warehouse 13 crossovers Syfy did. Those two shows were similar in tone, but didn't belong in the same universe. W13 was a magic-based fantasy show while Eureka was sci-fi, and the two also had incompatible rules of time travel, with Eureka allowing history to change while W13 insisted the past was immutable (though W13 later ignored that and did its own history-altering storyline). There was also an ill-conceived crossover with Lindsay Wagner's W13 character appearing on Alphas, a much more serious and realistic series than either of the others, but it was done without any overt reference to anything from W13, so that it could be treated as a separate reality that just happened to have an identical character in it.
 
The crossover will probably function in the same way the Magnum crossoevers were, with each show dealing with different ends of the storyline. A simple murder on Bones will turn out to be supernaturlally related to events on Sleepy Hollow.
 
I've seen exactly one episode of Bones in my life and its story featured a ghost.

Boreanaz's character was trapped somewhere and he interacts with a dead soldier friend who spurs him on to escape. It's implied that his old friend is actually a hallucination, but in the final act, Bones unknowingly interacts with the ghost, too, while waiting for the Boreanaz character.*

So, if this episode (from years ago) didn't break the Bones universe, then a Sleepy Hollow crossover should do no harm.


*It's been a long time since I watched this episode, so forgive the lack of specific details.
 
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