So name a Star Trek moment that you just didn't "get".

[The Wormhole]

Maybe it was mentioned over a hundred of times, but I didn´t get the different color of Klingon blood. Sometimes it is pink/margenta (TUC Klingongs), sometimes it is red (Generations, Duras sisters).

Klingon blood is red in all but TUC. The only reason it was magenta there is that it would have bumped up the movie's rating. I guess since the pink blood was the contradiction, it was decided not to amend Klingon blood to that colour for any future productions. Larry Nemecek posited, "Perhaps, in hindsight, the blood globs we saw in ST:VI were interacting in an odd and visible way amid toxins in the malfunctioning atmospheric system of Gorkon's heavily damaged ship!"

Actually, strangely enough, Broken Bow does feature a computer graphic of Klingon DNA which includes purple blood.

Though really, the only reason they made it purple in TUC was keep the movie PG. If it had been red blood floating around the movie would have gotten a PG-13 rating.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Klingon myth states that Kahless once filled the ocean with his tears...

Where did they say that?

 

[Kor]

Klingon myth states that Kahless once filled the ocean with his tears...

Where did they say that?

TNG "Birthright Part II"

Kor

 

[MacLeod]

Okay, so here's one. In Generations when everyone is evacuating the Enterprise's secondary hull, Geordi and one of his engineers have to fight their way through the crowd to get to unattended children, who apparently are just being ignored by everyone else.

So, what, a ship full of Starfleet's bravest and boldest, and everyone except two officers are content to let children die just to save their own asses? And what the hell were children doing in the secondary hull at the time anyway? Civilians, be they children or grown ups shouldn't really have a reason to leave the saucer and go down to the secondary hull anyway. But since the ship was already on red alert when the evacuation order was given, all civilians, be they children or grown ups should have been in their quarters, which are all located in the saucer.

I don't recall it ever being stated that all quarters where in the saucer section. So it is feasible that there were some quarters in the stardrive section.

I really couldn't (and still can't) swallow or understand the notion that Voyager's holodeck operated on a different power source or type of power output and, therefore, that's why they could have holodeck adventures while still operating in conservation mode and not be able to run replicators at full capacity.

Really? If your ship's got that much power available to operate the holodeck, then you'll quickly figure out how to transfer that energy to more practical needs, such as replicators. If the power doesn't directly work or isn't compatible, then you'd figure out how to make something else work. Maybe you'd convert the holodeck to showers and a galley. Heck, if people eat on the holodeck normally (since it's a combination of replicator and hologram), then that should work for feeding the crew.

Really what this showed was that the writers couldn't get away from the baggage of having holodeck episodes.

For that matter, I never understood a lot from Voyager - and I belonged to a Voyager fan club. How hard was it to make sure the writers stuck to an overall theme of "reduce, reuse and recycle?"

As you say it was an atempt by the writers to get around TNG's "boobt Trap" which says somerthing along the lines of when power resources are scarce power to the holodecks is cut. And who designs a ship with two incompatable power systems, and haven't they adapters, but then again perhaps they are a lost technology much like fuses to prevent control panels blowing up.

 

[Shawnster]

Okay, so here's one. In Generations when everyone is evacuating the Enterprise's secondary hull, Geordi and one of his engineers have to fight their way through the crowd to get to unattended children, who apparently are just being ignored by everyone else.

So, what, a ship full of Starfleet's bravest and boldest, and everyone except two officers are content to let children die just to save their own asses? And what the hell were children doing in the secondary hull at the time anyway? Civilians, be they children or grown ups shouldn't really have a reason to leave the saucer and go down to the secondary hull anyway. But since the ship was already on red alert when the evacuation order was given, all civilians, be they children or grown ups should have been in their quarters, which are all located in the saucer.

I don't recall it ever being stated that all quarters where in the saucer section. So it is feasible that there were some quarters in the stardrive section.

That idea goes against what was established as far back as Encounter at Farpoint. The civilians evacuated in the saucer and the stardrive section stayed to fight. We saw that a few times in early TNG days.

I mean, you could be right and it would be "possible" to have civilians living in the stardrive section. That just would be a very poor design choice since you want civilians to evacuate in the saucer and leave the stardrive around to fight. It would make the most sense to have all civilians "confined" to the saucer and leave the stardrive or engineering hull reserved to authorized personnel only. Almost as if the saucer was like living "on base" in current military terms. Just because a civilian spouse or child lives on base doesn't mean they have the run of the base and access to military buildings.

 

[alpha_leonis]

Here's mine. Sorry if this has been posted before, but I haven't yet read all 38 response pages.


The *entire premise* behind "Measure of a Man". One would think, that after Data had spent four years at StarFleet Academy, worked his way up to the rank of Lieutenant Commander, and been placed third in command of the Starfleet flagship, that the question of his sentience would have been answered long before.

 

[JWPlatt]

No one was self-aware enough to ask the question.

 

[T'Girl]

It was generally assumed that Data was self aware, just never established in law.

 

[Richard Baker]

Okay, so here's one. In Generations when everyone is evacuating the Enterprise's secondary hull, Geordi and one of his engineers have to fight their way through the crowd to get to unattended children, who apparently are just being ignored by everyone else.

So, what, a ship full of Starfleet's bravest and boldest, and everyone except two officers are content to let children die just to save their own asses? And what the hell were children doing in the secondary hull at the time anyway? Civilians, be they children or grown ups shouldn't really have a reason to leave the saucer and go down to the secondary hull anyway. But since the ship was already on red alert when the evacuation order was given, all civilians, be they children or grown ups should have been in their quarters, which are all located in the saucer.

I don't recall it ever being stated that all quarters where in the saucer section. So it is feasible that there were some quarters in the stardrive section.

That idea goes against what was established as far back as Encounter at Farpoint. The civilians evacuated in the saucer and the stardrive section stayed to fight. We saw that a few times in early TNG days.

I mean, you could be right and it would be "possible" to have civilians living in the stardrive section. That just would be a very poor design choice since you want civilians to evacuate in the saucer and leave the stardrive around to fight. It would make the most sense to have all civilians "confined" to the saucer and leave the stardrive or engineering hull reserved to authorized personnel only. Almost as if the saucer was like living "on base" in current military terms. Just because a civilian spouse or child lives on base doesn't mean they have the run of the base and access to military buildings.

I think civilians are in the star drive section only to provide a dramatic scene of people having to evacuate before saucer separation. If everybody was where they logically should be the hallways would be empty before the separation. That is not as a compelling image as large numbers of people urgently rushing to safety.

One big question about the emergency saucer separation in 'Generations'. Crusher evacuates sickbay which is fairly down inside the saucer IIRC and has the patients huddled in an exterior room with large windows, possibly one of the worst spots to be. The windows there (and on top of the Bridge) break for no apparent reason, but the ones in Ten Forward are fine, even after bearing the brunt of the landing impact- cradhing through hillsides, forests and such...

 

[The Wormhole]

Here's mine. Sorry if this has been posted before, but I haven't yet read all 38 response pages.


The *entire premise* behind "Measure of a Man". One would think, that after Data had spent four years at StarFleet Academy, worked his way up to the rank of Lieutenant Commander, and been placed third in command of the Starfleet flagship, that the question of his sentience would have been answered long before.

There was a lot of things about Data and Worf in the early seasons that completely ignores the fact that they both should have had careers before being posted to the Enterprise, Data especially given his higher rank.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

Mine isn't in the same context as everyone else but I think it's worth mentioning. When I sat down to watch The Menagerie, I misread it as The Merengue. So when it was over I was very puzzled because there was no dancing in either of the episodes. I then looked inside the DVD case and noticed my mistake

 

[eyeresist]

Not the meringue?

 

[T'Girl]

There was no lemon meringue pie at all.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

With an "e" it refers to the dance and "i" is the pie. Yeah there was no pie either!

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Mmmmm...pie.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj1LFYSO2Kw[/yt]

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

That is literally the best thing that I have ever seen in my life. Literally.

 

[scotpens]

. . . When I sat down to watch The Menagerie, I misread it as The Merengue. So when it was over I was very puzzled because there was no dancing in either of the episodes.

No dancing, you say?

Okay, maybe not the merengue, exactly.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

That is literally the best thing that I have ever seen in my life. Literally.

Better than this?

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xsu9HxN_eU[/yt]

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

That poor chicken!

 

[Captain Rob]

I caught part of ST2009 earlier this week on cable. I just watched a part of it where Kirk and PrimeSpock meet up with Scotty.
I can accept the whole transwarp beaming thing but there's a big problem. You can't beam front point A to point B if you don't know where point B is. Regardless if it is moving or not.
All they knew of the location of the Enterprise was that it was going from Vulcan to meet up with the fleet. You can't tell me that the broken down shuttlecraft inside of some big building was able to establish a lock on the position of the Enterprise. Moving in subspace or not.
Aww the rest of the movie's BS anyway. What do I care.