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Agents of SHIELD - Season 2 Discussion Threads. (Spoilers Likely)

lol, Raina was right! She was telling the truth trying to save them...

She lies and manipulates and now when she tells the truth, they don't trust her, or at least that's how I'm betting it turns in the finale.

I think she was still trying to manipulate the situation to her benefit, so it's not a total Cassandra type situation. Though I'm sure she'll use that tack during what comes next to rally people to her own faction.

Man, nesting quotes is still a challenge around here. :rommie:


Ah, you think they are replacing the Bus with a helicarrier? I could go for that.

Having seen Age of Ultron tonight, I could see that being a distinct possibility.

Boy did you call it, Reverend!

OK, everybody pay up! ;)
 
Maybe he derived the crazy sauce from her blood.

Rev wins the thread this week. :rommie:
 
Did nobody question why Jiaying wasn't all that bothered that Cal was a murderer? I think it might be because as far as she's concerned (most) humans don't count. They're inferior and they're a natural enemy and always will be. Right now she's basically Magneto. Even has the lovely first hand experience with Nazis (no, we're not starting that discussion again!)

Maybe he derived the crazy sauce from her blood.

Rev wins the thread this week. :rommie:

In fairness, it's only right that I concede that I did not see the freaky stone T-1000 tablet coming. I'd assuming the reason they (the show) were keeping it's nature quite was that it was something known to the audience.

I this a thing from the comics BTW? My knowledge of Inhuman lore is pretty much limited to what I skimmed from the Marvel wiki. I want to say it reminded me of that scene in GotG where Ronan emerged from a pool of black liquid, but that seems more like a coincidence than a connection. Now that I think about it, wasn't there a tablet or monolith like this in Odin's weapons vault?
 
Did nobody question why Jiaying wasn't all that bothered that Cal was a murderer? I think it might be because as far as she's concerned (most) humans don't count. They're inferior and they're a natural enemy and always will be. Right now she's basically Magneto. Even has the lovely first hand experience with Nazis (no, we're not starting that discussion again!)

It may also be fitting to remember at this time what was said at the beginning of the series about Sky's parents - that BOTH of them slaughtered a Chinese village (IIRC), and that people were terrified of them. I believe we may have just seen a small remnant of that.
 
i suppose jiaying is the bad guy, but olmos character had been so unlikeable and flat that i was actually not that bothered by her actions.

also, cal seems to be the only character with any sort of life about him at the moment. like palpatine in revenge of the sith.
 
Ward has a quinjet, but only in a comic book world would he be able to use it longer than it took to run out of fuel. Where does a renegade killer spy get a few thousand pounds of JP-6 on a regular basis? Not to mention that any military aircraft needs a 20-man service crew and several hours of maintenance for each hour it flies. But, ya know, comic book. ;)

I guess if this ep was in fact post-Ultron (he got a mention) and they didn't really spoil anything, it'll be safe to watch the finale.
 
^The quinjets could be running on arch technology and may be able to run indefinitely.

Did nobody question why Jiaying wasn't all that bothered that Cal was a murderer? I think it might be because as far as she's concerned (most) humans don't count. They're inferior and they're a natural enemy and always will be. Right now she's basically Magneto. Even has the lovely first hand experience with Nazis (no, we're not starting that discussion again!)

Maybe he derived the crazy sauce from her blood.

Rev wins the thread this week. :rommie:

In fairness, it's only right that I concede that I did not see the freaky stone T-1000 tablet coming. I'd assuming the reason they (the show) were keeping it's nature quite was that it was something known to the audience.

I this a thing from the comics BTW? My knowledge of Inhuman lore is pretty much limited to what I skimmed from the Marvel wiki. I want to say it reminded me of that scene in GotG where Ronan emerged from a pool of black liquid, but that seems more like a coincidence than a connection. Now that I think about it, wasn't there a tablet or monolith like this in Odin's weapons vault?

I can't remember anything like it in the comics off hand but are you talking about this stone in Odin's trophy room?

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Good memory. It's "The Tablet of Life and Time". They don't look that similar but it's the best guess we have so far.

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It looked a lot like that was Bridget Regan playing the redhead. Could she be an ageless Dottie from Agent Carter somehow?
 
I was expecting more of an Age of Ultron tie-in than "Wow, that happened, now let's get back to our own issues." They spent so much time setting up the movie that I didn't expect them to brush it off so quickly afterward. This is going to be whiplash-inducing on a binge-rewatch: One minute, Raina's all horrified by her vision of global cataclysm and the world being changed forever, then a few minutes later it's old news and Raina's at peace with her gift. I'm glad I saw AoU on Monday, so at least I have something in the gap to ease the transition.

But once they did get back to their own stuff, it was pretty effective. I was impressed in the movie when
Whedon telegraphed that Hawkeye was going to die and it turned out to be a total fakeout.
But this episode was full of setups that turned to be fakeouts. We thought that Gonzales was planning to attack, that Jiaying was dedicated to peace, that Cal was sincerely turning himself over to protect his family, that Raina was trying to manipulate the situation as a power play, and oh, that Ward had sincerely turned Kara over to SHIELD so she could be helped. And none of that turned out to be true.

The saddest part was that Gonzales really did make an honest effort to resolve the situation peacefully, and got betrayed and murdered for it. That was really shocking.

The part I don't get is how nobody noticed that May was in two different Quinjets at the same time. At first I thought that Kara must've knocked her out and taken her place as Bobbi's pilot, but then we saw her with Gonzales in the other Quinjet.


Well, at least one of the helicarrier crew was seen as a SHIELD agent in CA:TWS.

I was wondering about that. Wasn't he the tech who stood up to Rumlow after Cap's speech and refused to launch the helicarriers?


It looked a lot like that was Bridget Regan playing the redhead. Could she be an ageless Dottie from Agent Carter somehow?

Didn't look like her to me.
 
it was a bit weird because i haven't seen AoU yet, so when i see it i'll just be waiting for a helicarrier to appear.
 
It seems the biggest glaring flaw in the episode is one many are noticing: Two agent Mays?
What, no one noticed?

Other than that I was extremely thrilled with last nights episodes.
 
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