You know you're a TOS fan if...

[BK613]

It's like a dark beer versus a lite beer: I assume, like the craft beer industry in our world, the Romulans have thousands of breweries making many Romulan ales with different levels of "IBU" and "AVB". The next time I'm on Romulus, I'm doing the craft Romulan Ale brewery tours.

I was thinking more along the lines of an unscrupulous drug dealer cutting pot with oregano.

 

[Discofan]

I was thinking more along the lines of an unscrupulous drug dealer cutting pot with oregano.

I wonder what a scrupulous drug dealer is like.

 

[Kor]

It's like a dark beer versus a lite beer: I assume, like the craft beer industry in our world, the Romulans have thousands of breweries making many Romulan ales with different levels of "IBU" and "AVB". The next time I'm on Romulus, I'm doing the craft Romulan Ale brewery tours.

Just as beers made with different types of malt have a broad range of earthy colors ranging from yellowish to near-black, Romulan ales probably come in hundreds of shades of blue. That must be an interesting grain they use.

Kor

 

[Discofan]

...you cancel a date because there is a heretofore unreleased interview of the guy who was inside the Gorn costume on TV.

 

[jgf]

As a TOS fan ... all other Trek fans consider you a demented dinosaur.

 

[Qonundrum]

One can sit through any TOS episode and find one thing good about it, within or tangential to context surrounding said good thing, even the worst of all worst episodes.

Must I post an example? It involves "The Apple"...

 

[BK613]

I wonder what a scrupulous drug dealer is like.

As the big pharma opiate crisis shows, the legal nature of your product does not dictate your ethical standing. Some people try to rip you off when doing business and some people don't.

 

[Discofan]

As the big pharma opiate crisis shows, the legal nature of your product does not dictate your ethical standing. Some people try to rip you off when doing business and some people don't.

Drug dealers are not only doing illegal things but they're not exactly humanists. I mean their business is pretty much based on people ingesting poisons, that will cause irremediable damage, make them age prematurely and die a lot sooner than they would have otherwise. Forgive me for saying so but the idea that these people could have scruples of any kind is the apex of ridiculousness!!

 

[BK613]

Drug dealers are not only doing illegal things but they're not exactly humanists.

Some are humanists, I bet. And some are atheists, some are protestant, some are catholic, and some are Buddhists. I suspect though, that you meant humanitarians. I of course, never claimed that they were. What I did claim is that some dealers of pot (the only vice i named) practice good business ethics, trying to provide a good product at a fair price and not cheat their customers. Which makes sense if you realize that their business relies heavily on reputation and word of mouth.

I mean their business is pretty much based on people ingesting poisons, that will cause irremediable damage, make them age prematurely and die a lot sooner than they would have otherwise.

There's a lot of legal products you can also classify as 'poisons' (alcohol, caffeine, salt, and sugar, for example) that likewise affect our health in negative ways; Doesn't mean those purveyors of 'poison' can't practice good business ethics.

Forgive me for saying so but the idea that these people could have scruples of any kind is the apex of ridiculousness!!

As my rhetoric professor was fond of quipping, even though he acknowledged the irony of it: "Generalizations are generally wrong." I don't put the guy selling a few excess buds off his personal plants or the guy selling sticks on the beaches of Thailand to support his family in the same category as the drug cartels of Columbia or the vicious drug gangs of northern Mexico. Like most human activities, there is a spectrum here that requires nuance to fully understand.

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And that is the last I'll say about what started out as a joke about Romulan ale. Just agree to disagree if you don't like my POV.

edit: fixed vicious for viscous, thanks @mb22

 

[mb22]

the viscous drug gangs of northern Mexico.

They are both vicious and viscous.

 

[Discofan]

They are both vicious and viscous.

so are circles of marmalade, they are both vicious and viscous.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Perhaps this debate about the ethics of drug dealing can be taken over to The Neutral Zone where it belongs so we can get back to something approaching the topic of the thread?

 

[arch101]

You know you're a Trek fan when you are running for President of the United States, appearing before a national television audience, and you say, with a perfectly straight face, that (in reference to the economy) "We've got to get under the hood and repair this old car, WARP SPEED!"
-As was done by the late H. Ross Perot

 

[Richard Cranium]

As a TOS fan ... all other Trek fans consider you a demented dinosaur.

I resemble that remark!

 

[Kor]

If you open an espresso stand called "Bean Me Up," which I saw in a recent road trip.

Kor

 

[Steven P Bastien]

You know you are a TOS fan if you go to "Bean Me Up" and ask them to add a "Scalosian espresso shot" to your cup of coffee.

 

[johnnybear]

You know you're a TOS fan when you can relate the thread of an entire episode to an uninterested party and still keep on with it even though you know they'd rather be somewhere else!
JB

 

[Mres_was_framed!]

You know you're a TOS fan when you wonder how it is that Tom Paris failed out of the Academy, and B'Elanna dropped out, but somehow Marla McGivers passed the Academy.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

You know you're a TOS fan when you wonder how it is that Tom Paris failed out of the Academy, and B'Elanna dropped out, but somehow Marla McGivers passed the Academy.

Don't forget, in real life not everyone in uniform went to "the Academy." The Navy has a little-publicized program that was quietly designed to give aspiring politicians the title and prestige of being a Naval officer-- without the difficult challenges of basic training and Officer Candidate School. You get commissioned instantly and "earn while you learn."
https://news.yahoo.com/for-politici...track-path-to-military-service-090000179.html

These "officers" do not command the same respect in the field that the real ones have earned, but once back home, they have incredible bragging rights and the public doesn't know the difference.

Marla McGivers might be an aspiring politician, possibly from a well-connected family. She wants to run for Federation Council someday, and she got into a Starfleet "officer" program that gives such people a very low bar to clear.

 

[Mres_was_framed!]

Don't forget, in real life not everyone in uniform went to "the Academy." The Navy has a little-publicized program that was quietly designed to give aspiring politicians the title and prestige of being a Naval officer-- without the difficult challenges of basic training and Officer Candidate School. You get commissioned instantly and "earn while you learn."
https://news.yahoo.com/for-politici...track-path-to-military-service-090000179.html

These "officers" do not command the same respect in the field that the real ones have earned, but once back home, they have incredible bragging rights and the public doesn't know the difference.

Marla McGivers might be an aspiring politician, possibly from a well-connected family. She wants to run for Federation Council someday, and she got into a Starfleet "officer" program that gives such people a very low bar to clear.

Certainly that would explain why Kirk barely knows who she is and acts as if she rarely has anything to do. Even if some officers wear red, maybe various other guests and civilians wear it while aboard ship. Even Khan wore a standard-issue red shirt for a short time.