Warners has completely control of the DC Comics IP. They can do whatever they want with all of DC's characters. It isn't a mess like Marvel.
X-Men: Apocalypse announced for May 2016
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Warners has completely control of the DC Comics IP. They can do whatever they want with all of DC's characters. It isn't a mess like Marvel.
As I said, Marvel and DC have crossed over a number of times in the comics. They may be rivals, but it's usually been a friendly rivalry. Though of course, now that comics characters are hugely profitable screen franchises, that might work against the friendliness.
I'm just thinking, why would Warners even consider that a third party might try to crossover Gotham with a Marvel franchise. It just doesn't seem likely - I suppose that's the sort of contingency the lawyers et paid to think of !
I suppose a general 'cannot be used in conjunction with characters from another copyright IP without express permission from DC' clause would do it.
I've heard people argue that the opposite would be needed. Without express permission, it gives them the rights to do X only. With Gotham, they have the rights to have Batman characters on a television show. Right now, they have the rights to put X-Men characters in a movie. They have to get permission to make X-Men on TV. Even then, it'll let them make an X-Men TV show. Gotham isn't an X-Men TV show (obviously).
There's a lot of talk about having the Fantastic Four and X-Men cross over, but they often back off that idea after proposing it and people think the contracts are for Fantastic Four movies and X-Men movies, so they can't do crossovers.
There's a lot of talk about having the Fantastic Four and X-Men cross over, but they often back off that idea after proposing it and people think the contracts are for Fantastic Four movies and X-Men movies, so they can't do crossovers.
At which point you get non specific background continuity - a newspaper headline 'Four People Caught In Reactor Malfunction' or a TV newspiece in the background of a scene, a guest appearance of an actor without using the characters name etc.
So now that we know Oscar Issac is playing Apocalypse, I wonder if he'll look massive similar to Xerxes from 300 or the Last Engineer from Prometheus or even Thanos. Just wondering how much mocap CGI and how much practical it's going to be.
Oh yeah, you can do that. It's possible to have a shared universe without crossovers (E.g., Oscorp Building in Avengers, Stark Tower in ASM), but it's not nearly as excited for story potential.
Yay!
Doctorwhovian
Fleet Captain
With Mystique getting a lot of focus in these films, I wonder if they'll introduce her maternal relationship to Nightcrawler from the comics. It seemed like they might have been setting that up with Azazel from the first movie (and also Nightcrawler's father in the comics), but he gets killed off at some point before Days of Future Past (as seen when Mystique infiltrates Trask's place), so maybe he was between then. I also wonder a bit if they'll deal with Nightcrawler's catholicism from X2 or have him be more of the swashbuckler, as in the new timeline it looks he might join the team earlier now.
Granted, the comic's connection although hinted for years was not really elaborated on until around 2003 (In the much-maligned run of Chuck Austen).
Granted, the comic's connection although hinted for years was not really elaborated on until around 2003 (In the much-maligned run of Chuck Austen).
Yeah, if the movies want to ditch that whole Chuck Austen backstory about Azazel as Kurt's father, I'd be fine with that. Heck, the X-Men movies have changed a ton of other stuff already.
Doctorwhovian
Fleet Captain
I actually wouldn't mind it it was still him, since the "First class" version didn't have the whole "He's really the devil" thing going on (How many devils do the comics have anyway?)-he was just a mostly silent character who was red and had similar powers instead of the messed up Draco thing.
Although, the First Class Mystique was mainly in a relationship with Magneto (Which in the original timeline might've continued even when he was the middle-aged Mckellan version as it's been hinted a bit) and earlier, Beast, although I suppose she might've had something with Azazel in the years between the films.
Although, the First Class Mystique was mainly in a relationship with Magneto (Which in the original timeline might've continued even when he was the middle-aged Mckellan version as it's been hinted a bit) and earlier, Beast, although I suppose she might've had something with Azazel in the years between the films.
I would be happy if they cover some of Nightcrawler's background. I really loved DOFP but it annoyed me how many characters we were told were killed off camera. This would give some meaning to Azazel's presence in First Class.
Well, Rogue only appears in the "present/future" portions of DOFP rather than the historical portions, and Apocalypse is apparently set in 1983 and focuses entirely on the younger cast. So I doubt the Rogue Cut will have any effect.
Oh, and it comes out May 27, 2016.
Thanks Christopher !