Worst Star Trek Moment of All Time (for me)

[RyanKCR]

USS Valkyrie said:
Worst moment for me consist of: Destruction of the U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701.
While you all are attached to this ship because of its sentimentality from the first series, I am attached to its movie incarnation because at the age of 6, it was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen in my life. Mind you, this was before women meant anything to me. Hell, even to this day, it remains, hands down, at the top of my 'favorite ship list'. The destruction of this magnificent vessel for the sake of that blight known as the Excelsior absolutely curdles my blood. While I greatly enjoyed TWOK and TSFS, it still irks me how they ruined what is still, IMHO, the greatest starship to ever grace my television by turning her into Daddy Daycare in space and then having Adm. Morrow take a big fat dump on her by saying that "We feel her day is over." This in turn leaves little use for it than to be the next 'Oh wow' special effects shot.
What made this even worse is that they had to go and give us the Enterprise A, giving us the hope that "We've come home," only to throw it into ST:V as nothing more than more comic relief as the poor thing can't even say 'Red Alert' without sounding like a drunk Yoda. Well, then we get Star Trek VI. Alright we've got the Enterprise A in order and all is peachy. Well, I'll be damned if they completely disregarded the entire ships character for the sake of Klingons bleeding Pepto-Bismal. The character of the ship was 100% left out of ST:VI. Hell, even the 'epic' space battle at the end was seen more from a bridge perspective. Even if it weren't, we would have gotten to see the Enterprise get the shit get kicked out of it for about 10 minutes and then get to see a low-res shot of it firing some torpedos. It really pisses me off that the Enterprise A, in the last time we will ever see her design on a big screen, is reduced to nothing more than an environment.
I loved TMP. It is my absolute favorite Trek movie. Why? Because, for a nice change, the Enterprise gets to be the big star. I loved, repeat LOVED, the extra long, drawn out fly over scenes. I loved the drydock scene, and my favorite shot of all is in the very end, when V'ger explodes into a new dimension of thought, we see that magnificent vessel emerge from the brilliance with grace, pride and radiating new possibilities. They should have never destroyed her, and frankly, I would have loved to see ol' Gene take another shot at the big screen. With Jerry Goldsmiths scoring talents, it could have been a masterpiece. Gene would have never allowed that ship to be destroyed, ever. It makes me angry that someone could be given the power to create something special, only to have such wanton disregard. Sure, she may be 'just the ship', but that ship made our heroes who they are. Not to mention that it was just as much a character as Kirk, Spock or McCoy. It was also MORE of a character than any of the supporting cast. *shakes head* What a damn shame....

I agree 100%. It was TMP and the Enterprise in TMP that got me interested in Star Trek and everything I've seen since I've compared back to TMP and nothing comes close.

 

[HRHTheKING]

The Enterprise being destroyed was a good idea. After all, it would be less dramatic if the ship was invincible. As for Star Trek VI, we saw loads of shots of the ship throughout the movie, and many during the final battle scene.

 

[USS Valkyrie]

I know, but it felt like exterior shots of the characters apartment or house. It didn't feel like a character, the way it did before.

 

[Colonel Midnight]

^ I don't know -- I still feel like I've been punched in the stomach every time I watch the scene where the torpedo comes up through the saucer...

Cheers,
-CM-

 

[K-Star]

Worst moment for me is pretty obvious to some of y'all already: The death of Data. What really makes it worse is they could've done so much more with it. I didn't even cry, and he's my favorite character ever! To be honest, that scene alone ruins Nemesis for me. I would've liked the movie much better had Data not died.

 

[Kirby]

klingongoat said:

archeryguy1701 said:
. . . made Chekov look like a jackass.

How is that different from the way he is usually played?

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For me the worst moment is when Riker says: "Computer activate manual steering column" and a joy stick that looks nearly identical to the thing that was sitting on my desk pops out from the console...

 

[Manticore]

I think that a joystick makes sense, especially for all of the maneuvers that we see Starfleet ships managing to pull off.

But, for the love of Dear God, an extendable one that the captain uses? That looks about as advanced and capable as the one I have packed away?

 

[HRHTheKING]

I would have replaced the "manual steering joystick" with some kind of pod that rises from the floor allowing the pilot to sit in it and guide the ship by hand. Like a flight sim.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Or at least an N64... not an Atari...

 

[USS Valkyrie]

naw man, they needed to do it like they did in Men in Black II. They should have had a Playstation 2 controller pop out of the arm rest on the Captains Chair.

 

[Kegek]

K-Star said:
Worst moment for me is pretty obvious to some of y'all already: The death of Data. What really makes it worse is they could've done so much more with it. I didn't even cry, and he's my favorite character ever!

I can definitely sympathise with that. I also love Data, I went into the movie having no idea what it was about, and when Data died... I was just... numbed. It wasn't like when Spock died. It was more like when Yar died. And like Yar, Data isn't coming back...

 

[Mysterion]

aridas sofia said:
Spock's resurrection. It took Trek from the realm of well-conceived space opera and delivered it unto the abyss of such excretal noteworthies as Nimoy's own "Zombies of the Stratosphere". It also made possible the character's sad rebirth as that comic ÜberVulcan "Super Spock"

Not to mention that it totally neuters any of the dramatic impact of his death in TWoK.

TSFS would have been a much more impactful movie if Kirk had been shown having to live with the consequences of his actions (dead freind, blowed-up ship, and your son is asking to see you), which was one of the themes of TWoK as well. Oh, and facing one's mortality also.

 

[K-Star]

Kegek said:

K-Star said:
Worst moment for me is pretty obvious to some of y'all already: The death of Data. What really makes it worse is they could've done so much more with it. I didn't even cry, and he's my favorite character ever!

I can definitely sympathise with that. I also love Data, I went into the movie having no idea what it was about, and when Data died... I was just... numbed. It wasn't like when Spock died. It was more like when Yar died. And like Yar, Data isn't coming back...

See, I read the script beforehand, because I didn't have a copy of Nemesis to watch and I had JUST gotten into Trek. The way it was written was better. The subsequent mourning scene was much better. In the script, Picard passed around black bars that they all attached to their uniforms. Reading about that almost made me cry. If they had kept that part, I probably would've. I know it's nothing major, but it's symbolic and touching. Kinda like how I didn't cry during Pearl Harbor until that scene where this low ranking black guy salutes his dead commanding officer's coffin.

 

[The Old Mixer]

I didn't cry during Pearl Harbor, but I wanted to. It had nothing to do with the story moving or touching me, though.

 

[Kegek]

I didn't want to cry during Pearl Harbor.

But I did want to watch Tora! Tora! Tora!

That film warped my mind... Pearl Harbor, that is, not Tora! Tora! Tora! It was Titanic meets Saving Private Ryan by way of that special brand of Michael Bay that just screams quality.

Or the antithesis thereto. I forget...

 

[The Old Mixer]

I'm one of the few people around these parts who enjoyed Titanic...but I found Pearl Harbor to be a poorly-executed attempt at mimicking its formula.

 

[greenmystik]

I'd say one of the worst moments is when Data "floats" in Insurrection. That was just ridiculous

 

[intrinsical]

For me, its the introduction of the Borg Queen in Star Trek: First Contact. The movie single-handedly turned the Borg from an alien collective into "The Borg Empire". Nothing much separates the Romulan, Klingon and Borg empires. What's next? Starfleet Captains negotiating/allying with the Borg? Oh wait, those things happened!

 

[nx1701g]

Star Trek IV: I'm sorry I just don't like this film. The DVD is still in the shrink wrap.

 

[HRHTheKING]

intrinsical said:
For me, its the introduction of the Borg Queen in Star Trek: First Contact. The movie single-handedly turned the Borg from an alien collective into "The Borg Empire". Nothing much separates the Romulan, Klingon and Borg empires. What's next? Starfleet Captains negotiating/allying with the Borg? Oh wait, those things happened!

That's a good point. I tend to feel the same way. The Borg Queen kinda made sense given their "insect" nature. However, the downfall of the Borg creatively IMO started with "I, Borg" on TNG with the introduction of Hugh. It got worse with "Descent", then VOY just flushed everything down the toilet with overusing the Borg and the addition of Seven Of Porn.

The Borg were best as a faceless relentless enemy. They peaked with BoBW.