All the boring flyovers over the Enterprise in the first film. They just dargged the movie down slllloooooooooowly. Sure the shots were beautiful but they got real boring real quick. We get it...the ship was awesome. Let get the story started.
Worst Star Trek Moment of All Time (for me)
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[Kirk in STII:] "I'll say this for him, he's consistent."The God Thing said:
I was actually practicing enormous self-restraint when I wrote those words, so kindly excuse me if I disregard your objections concerning my lack of deference when analyzing the celluloid excretions of two Hollywood parasites.
Peach Wookiee said:
All right, you two... I think you two can accept that you each have a differing opinion about the works of Leonard Nimoy and Harve Bennett, so let's not get into trolling or flaming, okay? Consider this your friendly, people...The God Thing said:
I was actually practicing enormous self-restraint when I wrote those words, so kindly excuse me if I disregard your objections concerning my lack of deference when analyzing the celluloid excretions of two Hollywood parasites.
TGT
I didn't say anything about my opinion of their work. I am simply astonished someone could have such a literal hatred for two human beings simply because they made movies he doesn't like it.
That's my last word on this, do what you must.
GodThingFormerly
A Different Kind of Asshole
What? Their crime was infinitely worse than merely making a movie I didn't like. After all, Darren Aronofsky does that every few years without it causing me the slightest discomfort because he plays in his own cinematic universe. No, what Bennett & Nimoy did was lay a cuckoo egg in the place of the Star Trek film that should have been made with a still relatively young and healthy Gene Roddenberry in his rightful role of Executive Producer. Instead we had the privilege of seeing the NCC-1701 destroyed - after she was reduced to a mere potty-training toy in the previous installment, no less - just so Nimoy could play out some masturbatory cabalistic resurrection fantasy of his.
TGT
The God Thing said:
Instead we had the privilege of seeing the NCC-1701 destroyed - after she was reduced to a mere potty-training toy in the previous installment, no less - just so Nimoy could play out some diseased cabalistic resurrection fantasy of his.
TGT
As the father of a 3 year-old, I can assure you potty-training devices are no toys
GodThingFormerly
A Different Kind of Asshole
Arlo said:
As the father of a 3 year-old, I can assure you potty-training devices are no toys
Congratulations on the toddler. I prefer to raise Myxomycetes - particularly the Pilobolus - in my living room incubator, which I suppose is the inevitable result of watching the TOS episode Return to Tomorrow and then reading Loren Eiseley's The Invisible Pyramid a few too many times.
TGT
This would be a case of one person's "worst moment" being another person's "best moment".
I agree the long shots in TMP are great and intentionally done by Wise to give the ship a feel of her size to make the comparison to V-GER more impact later in the film.
The destruction of the Enterprise is the worst moment. It's made even worse by the fact that ILM's people hated the model (they never did film it right either) and for a brief mement contemplated destroying the model itself for the sequence. They were looking forward to filming more but with new different model of their own (Excelisor.)
The destruction of the Enterprise is the worst moment. It's made even worse by the fact that ILM's people hated the model (they never did film it right either) and for a brief mement contemplated destroying the model itself for the sequence. They were looking forward to filming more but with new different model of their own (Excelisor.)
For me, it's the incredibly bad "humor" stuffed into INS... Bad enough that it was the first (and hopefully last) Trek movie I've ever walked out on.
To date, I've never seen NEM, due to INS. Doesn't sound like I've been missing much, either.
Cheers,
-CM-
To date, I've never seen NEM, due to INS. Doesn't sound like I've been missing much, either.
Cheers,
-CM-
My worst moment is Kirk falling off the mountain in The Final Frontier. Absolutley apalling special effects, no excuses.
^How in the world did he change in mid-air? 
The only scene that comes to mind for me was in Star Trek VI. Overall, it was one of my favorite movies, but the Magnetic boot/ Crewman Dax scene was just kinda horrible. I thought it was an overall crappy scene and made Chekov look like a jackass.
The "running time" padding in TMP.
The uber-boring flyover of NCC 1701 and the endless scenes of the crew looking at the viewscreen as they fly through the V'Ger machine.
The uber-boring flyover of NCC 1701 and the endless scenes of the crew looking at the viewscreen as they fly through the V'Ger machine.
How is that different from the way he is usually played?
Worst Star Trek moment of all time?
Kim Cattrall!
Kim Cattrall!
Spock's resurrection. It took Trek from the realm of well-conceived space opera and delivered it unto the abyss of such excretal noteworthies as Nimoy's own "Zombies of the Stratosphere". It also made possible the character's sad rebirth as that comic ÜberVulcan "Super Spock" (paste the link)--
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Worst moment for me consist of: Destruction of the U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701.
While you all are attached to this ship because of its sentimentality from the first series, I am attached to its movie incarnation because at the age of 6, it was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen in my life. Mind you, this was before women meant anything to me. Hell, even to this day, it remains, hands down, at the top of my 'favorite ship list'. The destruction of this magnificent vessel for the sake of that blight known as the Excelsior absolutely curdles my blood. While I greatly enjoyed TWOK and TSFS, it still irks me how they ruined what is still, IMHO, the greatest starship to ever grace my television by turning her into Daddy Daycare in space and then having Adm. Morrow take a big fat dump on her by saying that "We feel her day is over." This in turn leaves little use for it than to be the next 'Oh wow' special effects shot.
What made this even worse is that they had to go and give us the Enterprise A, giving us the hope that "We've come home," only to throw it into ST:V as nothing more than more comic relief as the poor thing can't even say 'Red Alert' without sounding like a drunk Yoda. Well, then we get Star Trek VI. Alright we've got the Enterprise A in order and all is peachy. Well, I'll be damned if they completely disregarded the entire ships character for the sake of Klingons bleeding Pepto-Bismal. The character of the ship was 100% left out of ST:VI. Hell, even the 'epic' space battle at the end was seen more from a bridge perspective. Even if it weren't, we would have gotten to see the Enterprise get the shit get kicked out of it for about 10 minutes and then get to see a low-res shot of it firing some torpedos. It really pisses me off that the Enterprise A, in the last time we will ever see her design on a big screen, is reduced to nothing more than an environment.
I loved TMP. It is my absolute favorite Trek movie. Why? Because, for a nice change, the Enterprise gets to be the big star. I loved, repeat LOVED, the extra long, drawn out fly over scenes. I loved the drydock scene, and my favorite shot of all is in the very end, when V'ger explodes into a new dimension of thought, we see that magnificent vessel emerge from the brilliance with grace, pride and radiating new possibilities. They should have never destroyed her, and frankly, I would have loved to see ol' Gene take another shot at the big screen. With Jerry Goldsmiths scoring talents, it could have been a masterpiece. Gene would have never allowed that ship to be destroyed, ever. It makes me angry that someone could be given the power to create something special, only to have such wanton disregard. Sure, she may be 'just the ship', but that ship made our heroes who they are. Not to mention that it was just as much a character as Kirk, Spock or McCoy. It was also MORE of a character than any of the supporting cast. *shakes head* What a damn shame....
While you all are attached to this ship because of its sentimentality from the first series, I am attached to its movie incarnation because at the age of 6, it was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen in my life. Mind you, this was before women meant anything to me. Hell, even to this day, it remains, hands down, at the top of my 'favorite ship list'. The destruction of this magnificent vessel for the sake of that blight known as the Excelsior absolutely curdles my blood. While I greatly enjoyed TWOK and TSFS, it still irks me how they ruined what is still, IMHO, the greatest starship to ever grace my television by turning her into Daddy Daycare in space and then having Adm. Morrow take a big fat dump on her by saying that "We feel her day is over." This in turn leaves little use for it than to be the next 'Oh wow' special effects shot.
What made this even worse is that they had to go and give us the Enterprise A, giving us the hope that "We've come home," only to throw it into ST:V as nothing more than more comic relief as the poor thing can't even say 'Red Alert' without sounding like a drunk Yoda. Well, then we get Star Trek VI. Alright we've got the Enterprise A in order and all is peachy. Well, I'll be damned if they completely disregarded the entire ships character for the sake of Klingons bleeding Pepto-Bismal. The character of the ship was 100% left out of ST:VI. Hell, even the 'epic' space battle at the end was seen more from a bridge perspective. Even if it weren't, we would have gotten to see the Enterprise get the shit get kicked out of it for about 10 minutes and then get to see a low-res shot of it firing some torpedos. It really pisses me off that the Enterprise A, in the last time we will ever see her design on a big screen, is reduced to nothing more than an environment.
I loved TMP. It is my absolute favorite Trek movie. Why? Because, for a nice change, the Enterprise gets to be the big star. I loved, repeat LOVED, the extra long, drawn out fly over scenes. I loved the drydock scene, and my favorite shot of all is in the very end, when V'ger explodes into a new dimension of thought, we see that magnificent vessel emerge from the brilliance with grace, pride and radiating new possibilities. They should have never destroyed her, and frankly, I would have loved to see ol' Gene take another shot at the big screen. With Jerry Goldsmiths scoring talents, it could have been a masterpiece. Gene would have never allowed that ship to be destroyed, ever. It makes me angry that someone could be given the power to create something special, only to have such wanton disregard. Sure, she may be 'just the ship', but that ship made our heroes who they are. Not to mention that it was just as much a character as Kirk, Spock or McCoy. It was also MORE of a character than any of the supporting cast. *shakes head* What a damn shame....
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