Will we see Augment Virus Klingons?

[MakeshiftPython]

Sure, there are certain tropes that Trek has stuck with despite increased budgets. Heck, flip-phone communicators will probably not ever be a thing in the 22nd and 23rd centuries as we've already advanced beyond that in real life, but it's an iconic visual for Trek that DISCOVERY has stuck with. Smooth forehead Klingons isn't one of them.

 

[Vger23]

Hopefully not. The augment virus was stoopid.

 

[Tai]

Am I the only one that thinks that the new Klingon look isn't radically different? If I were to watch the premiere episode of Discovery on mute with no subtitles, I'd say "Those guys look like Klingons."

 

[Ralphis]

My fanwanky headcanon theory is that the Disco Klingons were are a product of a failed attempt to undo the Augment virus, but instead created an Augmented Augment virus. But... I totally realize and accept that IRL it was always just intended to be a visual retcon, and nothing more.

 

[fireproof78]

My fanwanky headcanon theory is that the Disco Klingons were are a product of a failed attempt to undo the Augment virus, but instead created an Augmented Augment virus. But... I totally realize and accept that IRL it was always just intended to be a visual retcon, and nothing more.

I like that head canon.

 

[XCV330]

My fanwanky headcanon theory is that the Disco Klingons were are a product of a failed attempt to undo the Augment virus, but instead created an Augmented Augment virus. But... I totally realize and accept that IRL it was always just intended to be a visual retcon, and nothing more.

the problem is they went beyond visual, as far as i can see it. klingons were always supposed to be mammals and humanoid, not THAT different from humans, and that was kind of the point, but by giving them viper pits, double-naughty-bits and everything else they changed the species into something it simply wasn't before. I like discovery but I hate what they did to the Klingons and would rather they just no longer use them. There you go Fuller, you've immortalized something in Trek.

 

[Tuskin38]

There still isn't anything contradicting the double dick in other canon. Redundant organs has been canon for years.

Klingon Make up has also had had bumps on the nostrils since TNG.

 

[fireproof78]

the problem is they went beyond visual, as far as i can see it. klingons were always supposed to be mammals and humanoid, not THAT different from humans, and that was kind of the point, but by giving them viper pits, double-naughty-bits and everything else they changed the species into something it simply wasn't before. I like discovery but I hate what they did to the Klingons and would rather they just no longer use them. There you go Fuller, you've immortalized something in Trek.

He made them more alien? Good for him.

 

[mdtauk]

I would like to see them myself, but ostracised and in exile, roaming the galaxy looking to fight and conquer to "prove" they are Klingons.

I would also like to see the TMP/TNG era Klingons start to assert themselves to fight back against the Discovery style Klingon "religious extremists" to eventually remove them, maybe use their genetic techniques to restore the physionomy of the Augments in time, to explain the DS9/TOS characters looking like TNG Klingons.

I guess this is mostly head-cannon, but some acknowledgement in the show, could really help bridge the visual divide

 

[Timo]

Well, the basic solution is almost trivial. DSC is all hot and bothered about the Klingons being "divided". This concept does not contradict any of the TOS, TNG or ENT era stuff as such, except in visual terms. So all we need is a visual confirmation that one or more of the factions of the divided Klingonkind in DSC looks different from the others.

Doesn't need to be a faction that would look like the TOS Klingons exactly. Or the TMP or later TOS movie ones. Or the TNG/ENT ones, or the Abrams ones. All we need is a Klingon faction that looks different. It then follows, especially because we didn't see any different look in the first season, that all sorts of different looks may lurk in the background, to rise into prominence as the fates of the Empire so conspire, while the folks with the current looks fall from on high.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[F. King Daniel]

They did the surgery so he could pass as Human. The Augment virus probably would have still showed him as Klingon on scanners.

Except Tyler was still found out after one visit to sickbay!

 

[Timo]

It was made clear they did all the imaginable tests on him after his rescue from the prison ship. They failed to discover anything that couldn't be the result of Klingon torture. They also tested for Manchurian Candidate programming, but with techniques that, according to Culber, failed to take into account that it was the normal behavior that was subliminally glued on, while the traitorous personality was the native and natural one.

It would seem that L'Rell's experimental technique was a good one for inserting agents through the best security measures the UFP had to offer in wartime. The major downside (besides the effort required) was that it didn't work: the mask didn't come off when it was supposed to. Which may be why "Arne Darvin" was done with a lighter touch than "Ash Tyler"..

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Am I the only one that thinks that the new Klingon look isn't radically different? If I were to watch the premiere episode of Discovery on mute with no subtitles, I'd say "Those guys look like Klingons."

I'd have no problem with the DSC Klingon look, except for the elongated head.

My fanwanky headcanon theory is that the Disco Klingons were are a product of a failed attempt to undo the Augment virus, but instead created an Augmented Augment virus.

I like that explanation.

 

[Tuskin38]

Except Tyler was still found out after one visit to sickbay!

It wasn't a single visit.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Yeah, Tyler must have had a standard medical exam when he first joined the crew. At which point Culber's suspicions hadn't yet surfaced. That only came later.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'd have no problem with the DSC Klingon look, except for the elongated head.

 

[Cyrus]

During the first season I was hoping that they would use the augment virus on Voq instead of the gruesome procedure they ended up doing. Since they decided not do that, I suspect it's not part of their plan.

 

[thribs]

That requires the people involved in Space Show Doscovery to actually know the lore. I doubt it. We never actually saw a proper Klingon.

 

[Nerys Myk]

That requires the people involved in Space Show Doscovery to actually know the lore. I doubt it. We never actually saw a proper Klingon.

They know the lore, they simply chose not to be slavishly devoted to it.

 

[Tuskin38]

We never actually saw a proper Klingon.

We saw lots of them.