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Why so much negativity?

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The Sopranos was an incredibly profitable crime drama aimed at a mature audience whether it be 35 or 50 in average age and if a streaming service believed they could make money off another series like that they'd greenlight it as fast as they can. The continued popularity of series like Band of Brothers in basic cable reruns shows that gritty military dramas also have an audience some 20-odd years after they first aired.
 
The Sopranos was an incredibly profitable crime drama aimed at a mature audience whether it be 35 or 50 in average age and if a streaming service believed they could make money off another series like that they'd greenlight it as fast as they can. The continued popularity of series like Band of Brothers in basic cable reruns shows that gritty military dramas also have an audience some 20-odd years after they first aired.
But those types of things aren't being made now. That's the whole point.

Those things were huge, and if you look at the last 5 years of HBO there's nothing of the sort.

And don't forget I mentioned the Wire as well. This isn't just macho stuff, but deep heavy content.

FYI You'll note authenticity is common in all of those properties.
 
I think that with the majority of viewers the proportion of negativity to positivity comes off as being larger than it is because of negativity bias. People discuss, and notice, the criticisms more.

Some people just hate them, of course.
 
The Sopranos was an incredibly profitable crime drama aimed at a mature audience whether it be 35 or 50 in average age and if a streaming service believed they could make money off another series like that they'd greenlight it as fast as they can. The continued popularity of series like Band of Brothers in basic cable reruns shows that gritty military dramas also have an audience some 20-odd years after they first aired.

World War 2 also has the benefit of being the last American war that in no way feels morally questionable to most people, thanks to Hitler.
 
That's because they hooked onto other trends. But both genres are still popular with large followings and you'll never run out of people who'd want to see a violent and realistic World War II series due to that conflict's enduring effect on citizens of all ages.

Don't mistake a trend for a permanent programming decision. The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour was canceled by CBS in 1969 and was a relic of its era: the Vietnam War, hippie culture and the Apollo Moon shots. Less than twenty years later CBS brought it back for a not-inconsequential revival during the waning months of the Wall Street corporate raider and Reagan '80s.
 
But what is new is the part where quasi rebellious men in their 30s are no longer watching pick up truck commercials on television. They no longer watch certain news networks, etc.

It's the beginning of a digitally segregated society, and every year the avoidance of each other rises.

In the good old days, tv networks needed to have wider demographic appeal. Adds sold television not the person paying for the cable bill.

Which meant only the craziest of studios would walk away from middle aged single men.

If you don't believe me look at the HBO catalog of the last 20 years. The band of brothers, The pacific, The Wire, The Sopranos, etc demographic is vanishing.

Heh...
And with that one statement you just put yourself into a demographic that the FBI & the Justice Department have a watchful out out for. :lol:

Dude, you need to expand your horizons, not circle-the-wagons and prepare for the nonexistent ending of your preferred "Trek" through life.

(did ya see what I did there?) :p
 
As I understand it "Succession" is a pretty popular show on HBO right. Seems to be in the same wheel house as "the Sopranos".
You went from working class guys, to guys in suits? I like the show, it's ok, it without question is quality, but it isn't moving the needle.

It falls into the cycle of drama without events, at least from what I saw.
 
But they're not, that's the whole. They listening to Joe rogan, playing video games, watching fox news, etc.

This is untrue.

There is nothing to watch. It's a big I hope this doesn't suck, and in each year it gets worst.

Objectively speaking, the quality of television drama across the board continues to improve. If someone can't find a few hours of good TV to watch in a week, the problem is theirs.

And there's no reason to watch more than an hour or two of TV a day. There really isn't.
 
Heh...
And with that one statement you just put yourself into a demographic that the FBI & the Justice Department have a watchful out out for. :lol:

Dude, you need to expand your horizons, not circle-the-wagons and prepare for the nonexistent ending of your preferred "Trek" through life.

(did ya see what I did there?) :p
I went to hockey, I said that right? The only reason I'm here right in the current moment is because multiple teams of mine and games have been cancelled due to covid.

I can't mention the stuff at the core of the demographic because it immediately turn into thread that'll get locked.
 
First, I’m not sure about these sites. However, I’m not sure what those articles have to do with what you were replying to.
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A large substantial demographic is being edged out of society.

Discovery itself is in the middle of that edging out.

The men dropping out, going into alternative news, alternatives "beliefs/values", etc has been a massive trend over the last decade.

It goes back to "this show isn't for you, just accept it and move on".
 
I can't mention the stuff at the core of the demographic because it immediately turn into thread that'll get locked.

That's a cop-out.

A large substantial demographic is being edged out of society.

It's just some guys whining because they don't like what's on TV. Hardly the Trail of Tears. My sympathy is strained.

Look, you're grinding some familiar axes here. You can't expect people to take this kind of stuff seriously on the upteenth repetition.
 
A large substantial demographic is being edged out of society.

Discovery itself is in the middle of that edging out.

The men dropping out, going into alternative news, alternatives "beliefs/values", etc has been a massive trend over the last decade.
That doesn’t answer my question
 
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