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Why No Love For Zoe?

My only problem with the character (not Zoe; she was just doing what Abrams wanted her to do) is that she was so intelligent. That was never the case with Uhuru in the original series, and she certainly wasn't a master of alien languages. We saw this clearly in one of the movies when she tried to talk to some Klingons, and not only had to get tons of archaic books out for whatever bizarre reason, but she butchered the translations on top of that.

There's nothing wrong with a woman being intelligent, obviously, but considering how hard they tried to make the other characters at least somewhat similar to the originals, they really botched it with Uhuru. Just as there's nothing wrong with a woman being a supra-genius, there's nothing wrong with one being a normal, regular person either. And that's what Uhuru always was.

I always hated that scene because it made Uhura out to be unable to speak languages just for the humour of the scene.

Most of my knowledge of the characters comes from Trek Lit rather than screen depictions, so discount it if you want to, but to me Uhura has always been as she is in the new time-line - a communications expert, not only languages but also the comms systems on the Enterprise.
 
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I have always liked her actually. I remember her from that dance movie a few years back, and loved her in the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. I have no doubt this movie will help her land some larger roles.
 
BTW what did NN do other than being black, sing a few songs and kiss Kirk, and she had 79 episodes to stand out. I'm sorry some peoples gripes are just ridculous. (And I'm calling the gripe rediculous not the poster)

It was the 60's; being a black woman who wasn't sassy, matronly or 'funky' was big to start with, and kissing a white guy was huge (Plato's Stepchildren had the first interracial kiss on television). I know it seems like nothing to us now, but at the time Uhura was nearly as controversial as Mr. "Devil Ears" Spock himself.
 
Basically almost any interpretation of Uhura could be argued as vaild, since we saw so little of her in TOS and the 6 movies. Uhura was/is an important character for the sheer fact of the relevancy of having a black lady on the bridge of the Enterprise back in 1966. My god people, this was back when people flipped out when the Beatles said they were bigger then Jesus and segregation was rampant in the south. Uhura inspired many people to aspire to greater things, so for that her character is important in the franchise as a whole. But on the actual series and films, she was regulated to background status and often didn't do much, we know so little about her, I don't even understand how anyone could argue she wasn't intelligent or argue that she was intelligent. And I'm willing to forget that silly scene from TUC that was done for laughs.
 
I have always liked her actually. I remember her from that dance movie a few years back, and loved her in the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. I have no doubt this movie will help her land some larger roles.
She has a starring role in James Cameron's upcoming huge-budget sci-fi film Avatar.

...and as long as we are listing Saldana's past roles, don't forget about her role as the Trekkie airport employee opposite Tom Hanks in The Terminal.
 
Her "lack of recognition" could be that her role was largely confined to scenery like the other women in this movie.
 
Come on, one of the best things in the movie is Zoe Saldana. She is hot and a great actress. She was great in The Terminal. She was fabulous in Guess Who. And she was fantastic as Uhura.

Damn it, she should be one of the big stars in Hollywood.

No doubt about it...she is not only far hotter than Nichelle, she can ACTUALLY act...win win with this pick..

Rob
 
Lots of love for Zoe Saldana around here. She should start loving us back... one at a time! :D

Get in line friend.:bolian:

As for her acting though, Star Trek is the only thing I've ever seen her in, so I'll have to see more before I can give an opinion either way.

She made a great Uhura though.
 
Her "lack of recognition" could be that her role was largely confined to scenery like the other women in this movie.
In the heirarchy of the "regular seven" TOS characters there is the "Big Three", then Scotty, then "The Other Three".

I would say among her peers (i.e., among the "Other Three") she had the biggest and most important role -- perhaps even more important that Scotty's.
 
It was kinda funny..when I saw this the other night, the times that Uhura kissed Spock, a girl behind me said: oh lord, what a tramp! :lol: I thought she was gorgeous and did her justice! :)
 
It was kinda funny..when I saw this the other night, the times that Uhura kissed Spock, a girl behind me said: oh lord, what a tramp! :lol: I thought she was gorgeous and did her justice! :)

These women...if I had said that I would be sexist. My wife loved the scene and who here really knows how that relationship started. "Oh, she's letting him pork her so she can move up the ladder" such sexist pigs!!!!

Oh, and as I said else where, I kid you not, some TREK fan, one row in front of me, when the credits were going up, says "They should have had a same sex kiss between two men so that homosexuals would be represented in the future since inter-racial heterosexuals had a scene".

Yikes...nothing against this train of thought, but c'mon people. Get a grip (and I mean that figuratively)

Rob
 
Her "lack of recognition" could be that her role was largely confined to scenery like the other women in this movie.
In the heirarchy of the "regular seven" TOS characters there is the "Big Three", then Scotty, then "The Other Three".

I would say among her peers (i.e., among the "Other Three") she had the biggest and most important role -- perhaps even more important that Scotty's.

More important than Scotty, sure; he only shows up halfway through the film, and the only thing accomplished by a Montgomery Scott was accomplished by one living a hundred-plus years in the future, sent back via. Spock.

But I don't know if I'd agree that Uhura was more important than Sulu or Chekov. Chekov had moments of Wesley-like genius and saved Kirk and Sulu with his mastery of transporter controls, while Sulu got to take part in the mission to the drill, do some swordfighting and kill a Romulan there, then was left in command of the Enterprise and rescued Spock from the Narada's barrage. In contrast, Uhura's only real contribution was to mention something that gave Kirk a great idea, and the rest of her scenes consisted of her ineffectually trying to talk a barfight intot stopping, taking off her clothes, and making out with Spock.
 
My only problem with the character (not Zoe; she was just doing what Abrams wanted her to do) is that she was so intelligent. That was never the case with Uhuru in the original series, and she certainly wasn't a master of alien languages. We saw this clearly in one of the movies when she tried to talk to some Klingons, and not only had to get tons of archaic books out for whatever bizarre reason, but she butchered the translations on top of that.


There's nothing wrong with a woman being intelligent, obviously, but considering how hard they tried to make the other characters at least somewhat similar to the originals, they really botched it with Uhuru. Just as there's nothing wrong with a woman being a supra-genius, there's nothing wrong with one being a normal, regular person either. And that's what Uhuru always was.



:confused:I find it quite astonishing that anyone could complain that Uhura was made too intelligent. What use would she be in the movie and plot if she was dumb as bricks or simply just a dim bulb? And would that be a helpful message to put forth? It seems to me that it would just be reinforcing some existing stereotypes about black women. I'd made a post about how glad I was that Orci and Kurtzman didn't do that imo, but it didn't come through( on the feminism thread) so I want to redo it.

Its seems certain that Uhura's role was minimized in the 60's due to the social climate. The other main characters didn't have this outside interference. I recently read something to the effect that Roddenberry wasn't allowed to do more with her. I'm sure someone here might know more about this. But if that's the case I see her new incarnation as a correction and updating of her character- and possibly more in line with GR's original intentions for her.
 
Young Uhura, dispite the miniscule screen time she's been given in this movie, is still light years ahead of the original Uhura who was basically just a glorified extra, a lowly secretary in space. Look at it this way, remember the character that Sigourney Weaver's character played in the show Galaxy Quest? Does that type of characterization apply to the new Uhura? No.

The first movie focuses on the big two and everyone else is just reduced down to mostly a simple introduction. Uhura will surely get more to do in the next movie. I just hope that most of it won't involve exchanging saliva with Spock.
 
Ummm no. What Kool-Aid are you drinking?

She's servicably attractive, yes. I wouldn't say "Hot." There were scenes where the lines in her face made her look 40. And they did nothing to make her look like Uhura.

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