Why does everyone hate Wesley?
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I never hated him as a character, but it took time for the writers to get a firm grasp on his character and make it interesting.
I don't "hate" Wesley, I'm on record as saying that he should have been differently written though.
A lot of the viewers were wesleys age and younger. He pulled them into the show.
I never knew that people disliked him so much until I came on the internet. He's not a particularly great character, but I never found him hideously annoying. the "Wesley saves the ship" motif wasn't used as much as people say it was either.
This thread would be better suited to the Next Generation forum. Moving...
I loved him when I was a kid because he was a wish fulfillment character.
Which is exactly why I dislike him now. Because he's a wish fulfillment character for nerdy preteens. He's not quite so bad in seasons 3 and on, since they kind of figured out how to write the conflict between his savantish intelligence and his inexperience in a way that wasn't grating. But they still never really wrote him like a believable teen, and more like a teen on a family sitcom.
Which is exactly why I dislike him now. Because he's a wish fulfillment character for nerdy preteens. He's not quite so bad in seasons 3 and on, since they kind of figured out how to write the conflict between his savantish intelligence and his inexperience in a way that wasn't grating. But they still never really wrote him like a believable teen, and more like a teen on a family sitcom.
I odn't hate Wesley, I hate the writers who decided to be dicks and wrote him terribly.
I dont know why you said I was posting crap. I think you post crap. So there.
A lot of attitude for a newbie. Your tenure here might not be as long as you might wish.
Im hardly a newbie watching star trek. Theres no attitude. The guy insulted my posting so I insulted his. Where is the morality in thinking tenure and seniority is a free pass to insult people? You can give it but you cant take it? You honestly want deference from strangers while you insult them?
Tell me more about what a bad man on Star trek forums you are.
PS you have a lot of attitude for some newbie in my living room, whose arrogance I am entertaining as a side effect of messing around on some random website. So there. Your stay in my living room may be quite short.
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Also- you were meant to delete the thread marked delete, which is why I put delete as the thread title. It obviously wasnt pointless, as I made a mistake and put it in the wrong forum, and then asked you to delete it, and you deleted it.
Like, what did you think was going on? Did you think someone was actually posting a thread with a working title of "delete", like the word delete had some kind of significance.
Ive just watched galaxy quest, and this is feeling like a sequel...
I don't hate Wesley, during seasons 3 and 4 he became much better than early on and I think it was a shame he left during season 4.
Charlie X was a well better written teenager than Wesley despite he was socially misadapted...
But the real reason why Wesley's so hated is because someone starts each season a topic about "Why Wesley's so hated?".
But the real reason why Wesley's so hated is because someone starts each season a topic about "Why Wesley's so hated?".
Knew exactly what it was going to be and still laughed.
I don't "hate" Wesley, I'm on record as saying that he should have been differently written though.
A lot of the viewers were wesleys age and younger. He pulled them into the show.
As a kid who watched TNG, I related to his character the least.
I don't completely buy into that idea. You don't need a child character to get a child to be pulled into a show (or a teen, or whatever.) I mean, if this were true why don't all works of fiction have child/teen characters in them to pull in younger viewers?
When you were a kid and watched "Star Wars" did you really have a hard time connecting with anyone because there was no child around?
No, you wanted to BE Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Obi Won Kenobi and save the galaxy from Darth Vader!
You don't want to be a child in that universe because you know being a child sucks and that being an adult rocks!
I think it was Season 2 when Wesley's character was treated a bit more seriously that I started liking him, when he became less of the "saves the ship/day" guy or the "puts himself/others in peril to get the story rolling" guy.
In those early episodes when he's saving the day it's absurd because here we have a ship filled with adults who represent the very best and brightest of Starfleet being upstaged by a teenager in doofy sweaters.
Once Wesley became less of this special, infallible, snowflake who must be cherished and isthe most specialist person on the ship and more of an everyday teen who was particularly adept and driven he worked better.
I totally agree. It's Batman and Robin, not Robin and Batman.
When you're a kid, your impressed by the heroic figure, not by another kid. Spock is said to have inspired some young viewers to become scientists and Spock wasn't a young science student.
Uhura didn't need to be a teenager to inspire a young Whoopi Goldberg. So of course, she identified herself to the character...but not because the age.
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