His outlook was refined IMO not really changed all that much the main difference was that he didn't have network on him, which is why he broke his contract and left his position as Producer, he nearly turned down TNG for that matter it was only because of nature of syndication that brought him back, it allowed him the freedom to do what he wanted to do.
Which Spin-off is Closest in "spirit" to TOS?
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His outlook was refined IMO not really changed all that much the main difference was that he didn't have network on him, which is why he broke his contract and left his position as Producer, he nearly turned down TNG for that matter it was only because of nature of syndication that brought him back, it allowed him the freedom to do what he wanted to do.
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It was the bad time slot.
Paramount would have brought back Star Trek with or without GR. The only reason they allowed him to be in charge of it was out of fear that the fans would never accept it.
TNG was GR's vision of Utopia run amok. TOS at least had characters that were a little more true to life and flawed. GR took those flaws away and made Trek a kinder and gentler family oriented show. TOS had bold sci-fi concepts, TNG was more character driven and focused on relationships. Both series had an underlying moral or message, TOS was way more subtler. TNG was preachy. TNG didn't actually feel like Star Trek until season three, after GR was no longer involved.
E: Weakest characters in Trek history... Idiotic, paper-thin plots, emotional Vulcans who defy IDIC, complete ignorance of TOS' pilot episodes (where one would Start from when making a prequel series, one would think), phase guns and photonic torpedoes with the SAME visual and audio effects as TNG, a non-existing Enterprise looking like a late 23rd Century ship... Contradictions galore... No "moral" stories beyond hit-you-over-the-head themes which insult the intelligence of its viewers... ("Progenitor" comes to mind)...
What's there to LIKE about E?
Gene always liked the good guys to be perfect? I suggest you go REWATCH TOS. That's what I enjoyed most about ENT; the characters DID harken back to the 'less then perfect' premise that was a part of the original Star Trek of the late 1960ies
I'd agree with the above. TNG is a very different show from TOS in that it presents the threats to a society that is literally utopian. As the series progressed, it became apparent this time could very well not be utopian as it apparently was in the early TNG, and DS9 further expands on that. Thats the meaning of the whole series: That humanity evolutes, but its core remains the same. And accompanying with it is its sence of curiosity and wonder, and the complex matters that every society (which on Star Trek's case is the Federation) has been occupied with for centuries.
And to another matter, remember, voting is still possible, so go ahead and lets find out if there'll be any changes to the current list.
And to another matter, remember, voting is still possible, so go ahead and lets find out if there'll be any changes to the current list.
Sorry to "ressurect" this topic, but I thought it'd be nice to see other people talk about which Star Trek spin-off is closer to TOS.
I still stand by DS9.
I still stand by DS9.
DS9, which is ironic since it alone is furthest from the formula of TOS.
I'd say Enterprise, since the question is about which series is closest in "spirit." Whatever one thinks about the execution of the series, I think they very much tried to take on the tone of TOS in a way that none of the other spinoffs did -- I think TNG is very far from the spirit of TOS, and that DS9 and VOY were working from the TNG template (DS9 tried to shake it up, VOY wound up following it surprisingly closely). Meanwhile, I think ENT was at least coming from the TOS template, and followed it to varying degrees of success (and were much more successful the less B&B were involved).
Depends on what one means by "spirit," though, doesn't it? I take it to be the je ne se quois which comes from pushing boundaries, having complex characters in complex relationships (for example: the "Bones and Spock are really great friends under all that bluster" party line is a gross oversimplification of a relationship which was charged with real bigotry and antipathy on both sides) and furthering the evolution of SF story-telling on television. TOS did a lot of those things, DS9 did a fair amount, TNG did very little and Voyager and Enterprise did none at all, imao.
May I ask why? I mean, the comments of everyone involved in the previous seven pages should not be blatantly erased, right?
Just my opinion...
Just my opinion...
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