When Do You Want To See Burnham Become The STD Captain?

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  1. Ronald Held

    Ronald Held Vice Admiral Admiral

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    After this episode, I retract what I said about the relationship between Saru and Burnham. Not certain about what happens to her if the season ends with some time travel.
     
  2. Fateor

    Fateor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Did she assault her captain, yes or no?

    Did she attempt to take control of the ship after assaulting her captain, yes or no?
     
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  3. fireproof78

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    Sorry, thought you were talking about Kirk there for a second.
     
  4. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    mutiny: an occasion when a group of people, especially soldiers or sailors, refuses to obey orders and/or attempts to take control from people in authority
    How the fuck do you think Burnham is a group of people?
    insubordination? yes. assault of a commanding officer? yes. mutiny? hell no
     
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  5. Brennyren

    Brennyren Commodore Commodore

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    MUTINY (noun):
    1. revolt or rebellion against constituted authority, especially by sailors against their officers.

    I think Michael's actions fit the term well enough.
     
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  6. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Vice Admiral Moderator

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    justice by wallet
     
  7. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Vice Admiral Moderator

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    No wonder its a homo sapiens only club
     
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  8. Bay17

    Bay17 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Yeah. I’m a former lawyer. She’s got a bit to work with there to fashion an argument. Not perfect but worth a run
     
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  9. Bay17

    Bay17 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I think she might be about to save the earth and the Federation from Klingon takeover by her instinctive rescue of Georgiou who will know how to win the war

    Could be enough
     
  10. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    do you notice the plural in 'sailors'?
    sorry, mutiny. like sex is per definition a group activtiy. if you do it alone, it is called something else
     
  11. Spot261

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    Much as I hate to admit it, @Hythlodeus is technically (albeit anally) correct, in both UK and US military law a mutiny does require at least two persons acting in unison. Otherwise it is merely disobedience.
     
  12. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    But Starfleet's not a military!:lol:
     
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  13. Spot261

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    :nyah:
     
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  14. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    well, if starfleet isn't military, since mutiny is a military term, then it can't be mutiny anyway. if I go against the wishes of my boss I don't get a life sentence. I might lose my job, but I don't get labeled as mutineer
     
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  15. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    That's it, I want to see Star Trek reimagined where instead of military chain of command, it's like working in an office.

    Or retail.
     
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  16. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    And now I want to see Ricky Gervais as Starfleet captain, The Office style
     
  17. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I want to see Peter Capaldi in Starfleet, In the Loop style!
     
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  18. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    That too, yes. Captain Malcom Fucking Tucker HAS to happen
     
  19. CaptainMurdock

    CaptainMurdock Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I want to see William Shatner in Starfleet, Boston Legal style! ;)
     
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  20. MacLeod

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    Well she might have the right to waive counsel, but even if she had counsel she pleaded guilty to the charges. So striaght onto the sentancing phase. Now you might be able to try and argue that the actions after Georgioiu where down to emotional impariment but the mutiny charge is a little harder to get around.

    She tried to subdue her CO and take command of the Shenzhou, after her CO decided not to follow her advice. She then also proceeded to lie that her CO had changed her mind.

    The best result she could realistically hope for is for rank to be restored as for the Captain's chair that should be out of the question.
     
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