When Do You Want To See Burnham Become The STD Captain?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Kane_Steel, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. fireproof78

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    These things happen...
     
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  2. XCV330

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    3rd generation family stories, so not worth the retelling. He ran speak-easies in southwest Virginia when the state was dry.
     
  3. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Burnham was also convicted of treason, wasn't she? That was an even more BS verdict. If she had actually bothered to retain defense counsel, or at least speak up on her own behalf, she would never have been convicted. She just let the tribunal walk all over her.

    If/when her sentence is commuted, I'm sure Starfleet will take that into account as well. Along with her record of service since then.

    That reminds me. Even if Burnham didn't ask for a defense attorney, why wasn't she given one anyway? Isn't that an absolute right during any trial - especially a court-martial? It's inconceivable that anyone who is on trial with their career and freedom - possibly even their life - at stake, would not be automatically provided with counsel, even if they didn't ask for it.
     
  4. fireproof78

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    Which makes me wonder of the legitimacy of the tribunal.
     
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  5. Hythlodeus

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    I think I know why Starfleet tribunals have a shady reputation
     
  6. fireproof78

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    Because of poor lighting...

    This is getting bad.

    On topic, due to the fact that Michael refused representation makes me wonder if it was offered? Makes me wonder why it was done the way that they did it as well as if they were attempting to scapegoat her for "starting the war."
     
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  7. CorporalClegg

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    I asked all those questions when the pilot aired. Still waiting for an answer other than, "It was in the interest of time."
     
  8. Refuge

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    When was he given a life sentence??
     
  9. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    at the beginning of ST: Nemesis
     
  10. CaptainMurdock

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    Yeah but when you got a smile like his, it's just too hard to throw the book at him. ;)
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  11. Ronald Held

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    She may have waved counsel. Sure they needed someone to blame. Commuting her sentence not that far in the future would require some extraordinary act. Admirals do not want to jeopardize their promotion chances for this sort of thing,IMO.
     
  12. Kane_Steel

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    After everything thats happened with Mary-Sue Burnham so far and how the dialogue continually aims to elevate how intelligent, strong and compassionate she is (and how she's also the best at everything including physical combat)..... Do you honestly believe they will keep her conviction going and keep her stripped of rank?

    Starfleet will no doubt grant Burnham her rank back, and likely command. Even if Saru takes charge temporarily, it won't last.

    It's painfully obvious.
     
  13. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    Her name is Michael
     
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  14. Kane_Steel

    Kane_Steel Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Mary-Sue is far more fitting.
     
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  15. Krandor

    Krandor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Yep. She is the most important person to every plan for reasons.
     
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  17. Prax

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    How about Michael Sue, then everyone can be happy.
     
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    I need to watch the scene again, but I remember all of Michael's accusers in her tribunal being in shadows. I specifically remember one of the members sounding like Jason Isaacs. If so, then getting her convicted of treason and sent on a prison transfer ship would've made Lorca's plan to get her on Discovery easier than if she had simply been reassigned to another Starfleet ship.
     
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  19. Mr. Laser Beam

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    ^ If Lorca was on the tribunal, then it'd have to be his prime universe counterpart, as IIRC the trial took place before the Buran was destroyed.
     
  20. Turd Ferguson

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    We know six months elapsed from the Battle of the Binaries to the time Burnham joins Discovery. How much time has passed from then to Discovery crossing over to the Mirror Universe? I don't think it's been that long (at least not one year and 200-something days that Lorca's been in the Prime Universe)