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When did the Janeway hatred truly start to coalesce?

Janeway probably filed that request right next to his requests for pizza, holodeck time, and a conjugal visit from B'Elanna.
 
I like to think there was an approved prison library, which could fit in a PADD. It would likely include assorted literature from humanity, Vulcan, and other Federation members. The kind of thing that would allow a prisoner to improve himself, which is reportedly the goal for all Federation citizens. And a prisoner would need it more than most...

Let's not forget that Vulcan Love Slave is also high literature.
 
They can probably be isolated, though. I doubt Tom was allowed access to the full ship's library during his confinement. Though I hope he was allowed something. Maybe some approved Federation literature and self-help material, their secular equivalent of the Bible.

Maybe Captain America's detention PSAs...
 
It might have been nice if Tom had actually complained out loud at the limited contents of the prison library: "Meditations of Logic for Inner Peace" by Surak? "Great Expectations" by Dickens? The Call of the Prophets by Akorem Len? What is this? Can't you give me a few pulp magazines or something?
 
I do not think that Janeway or Tuvok actually know how to be assholly in so far a creating dehumanizing conditions for a prisoner.

Sure they keep him in the cell, but any crewman that wants to be let in, can have sex with Tom, and half the time they forgot to lock his cell.
since Harry had to request permission to visit him (and was repeatedly denied it!) that doesn’t seem likely.
 
since Harry had to request permission to visit him (and was repeatedly denied it!) that doesn’t seem likely.

Agreed. That suggests that this was indeed solitary confinement, which is technically illegal. So, three possibilities.
1. The Federation condoned this, which means a very big step backward in their prisoner rehabilitation methods.
2. Janeway broke the law, but it was swept under the rug with all her other dubious actions.
3. Solitary confinement has been redefined, so Tom was not kept truly alone for 30d, but he wasn't allowed visits from friends.
 
If Tom wasn't allowed visits from ensigns, Janeway would have had to make Harry cease to be an ensign before he could visit him.

So technically... you just explained how Harry got promoted, instead. :p
 
Assuming that the Federation hasn't returned to a punishment that was outlawed along with flogging, or that Janeway wasn't doing it on her own, the most logical assumption is that Tom's "solitary" confinement was selective. And a "no ensigns" policy seems rather silly. "Only certain people" is more likely. He would see Neelix three times a day (meals), and I'm sure the Doctor would insist that he be regularly monitored for emotional stability. Because Harry and B'Elanna had no official reason to visit him, it would be harder for them.
 
"No Ensigns" was never meant to be interpreted as a serious suggestion. I was just playing into the hubbub about Eternal Ensign Kim.
 
Ah. Well, never hard to get me to talk about that. If you deleted all my "Harry deserved a promotion" posts, I'd probably drop down to Commander. :lol:

Really, I think that the "solitary confinement" matter was due to sloppy scriptwriting. Neither the writer nor the editor knew that true solitary confinement was outlawed as an inhumane punishment.
 
How many other antiquated punishments have snuck into the enlightened future of Star Trek's Federation? I'd wager most of the examples are in TOS rather than TNG and beyond, but I'm...uh..."happy" to be surprised.
 
They were under constant attack the whole time.

"I know they are shooting at us, and I know that we are running, but can I have some time off to talk to Tom about which DeLanney sister is better?"

Even in Harry's off time when he wasn't sleeping, he was on call, for when some one died, and he needed to replace their position.

Oh?

Did Harry help in the crime?
 
It might have been nice if Tom had actually complained out loud at the limited contents of the prison library: "Meditations of Logic for Inner Peace" by Surak? "Great Expectations" by Dickens? The Call of the Prophets by Akorem Len? What is this? Can't you give me a few pulp magazines or something?

I liked Great Expectations in high school...

"No Ensigns" was never meant to be interpreted as a serious suggestion.

It's like the "no Homers" club. One ensign at a time is allowed.

They were under constant attack the whole time.

"I know they are shooting at us, and I know that we are running, but can I have some time off to talk to Tom about which DeLanney sister is better?"

Even in Harry's off time when he wasn't sleeping, he was on call, for when some one died, and he needed to replace their position.

Oh?

Did Harry help in the crime?

On a more serious note: it does mean they were without their best pilot for 30 days. Hopefully it was a quiet month...
 
What does best "pilot" even mean?

It's a few buttons pressed in a known order to perform a series of tasks in response to expected stimulus.

Maybe Tom can do stunts at impulse, or circus contortions on thrusters through an asteroid field, but that's without any g-force or inertia to oppose his decisions.

Voyager was moving at warp 9 in a straight line while being fired on.

What they needed was a smart engineer to stop the engine from exploding while they were using an inconsiderable amount of power to move at unimaginable speeds.
 
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