Indeed.
When did the Janeway hatred truly start to coalesce?
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I'm going to say that you need a minimum security clearance to pilot a star ship which inmate Paris did not have.
There was a very small chance he could mutiny or steal a shuttle, which was far more likely, but he would have been locked out of everything, otherwise his personal codes should have been able to open the door to his cell.
Provisional rank badges and acting ensigns have security clearance?
If Tom is needed, Janeway simply tells the guard in the brig to release him and escort him up. While he's in the turbolift, she says: "Computer, re-authorize Tom Paris to operate ship controls, authorization Janeway pi one one zero." By the time Tom arrives, he's good to go.
While I don't think he could have escaped (without help anyway), we weren't really discussing that possibility. Rather, what might happen if Voyager needed her ace pilot while he was still serving his time.
Piloting could be considered serving his time.
Although if it's a question of punishment and rehabilitation?
Stick Tom on Ops, and make him watch Harry drive the ship into a planet.
Although if it's a question of punishment and rehabilitation?
Stick Tom on Ops, and make him watch Harry drive the ship into a planet.
Harry already drove the ship into a planet three episodes earlier.
Neither. He'd just walk fast, like Geordi and Barclay in "Hollow Pursuits". Ship is seconds away from turning itself to tritanium confetti... and they still walk.
ahahah, you really believe Starfeet cares about securing shuttle access? We’ve had aliens and literal children steal shuttles on several occasions!
Is that from the episode with the Bynars? If so, then, I mean, to be fair, in that scenario there wasn't really a looming crisis at that point.
However, there's surely an abundance of GIFs that show Starfleet Security's stellar response times.
Ship set to go pfoom in five minutes is something of a crisis...
Is it from that point in the episode? I figured it might be from when Riker and Picard left the holodeck when the ship didn't go foom and had no idea what was going on.They definitely weren't aware of the warp core false alarm, but I know they did later set the auto-destruct.
5 minutes in Starfleet emergency response time is an eternity.
Once it hits 47 seconds it's crunch time.
Have any of you seen Event Horizon? There is a scene in that film where a character starts running at full-tilt through a ship and they keep running during multiple cutaways to other characters in varying locations. The key difference here is that a major Hollywood production has the budget for larger sets and/or special effects that enhance the illusion of spacious corridors.
As far as Star Trek goes, there was that one time on The Next Generation when Data called Worf to seize someone in a cargo bay; he himself proceeded to...stride at a perfectly even pace. Don't get me wrong: it was a cool strut that would meet with Darth Vader's approval, but he could have requested an emergency transport or even put his superior locomotion to work by sprinting.
As far as Star Trek goes, there was that one time on The Next Generation when Data called Worf to seize someone in a cargo bay; he himself proceeded to...stride at a perfectly even pace. Don't get me wrong: it was a cool strut that would meet with Darth Vader's approval, but he could have requested an emergency transport or even put his superior locomotion to work by sprinting.
Neelix used to fly his own ship. Tuvok flew several shuttles.
Neelix piloting Voyager...there's an image.
Some of which even made it back.
Very well put because that is exactly how I remember it. The "sexist" charge was usually a cop out coming from voyager fans who couldn't stand criticism of their beloved show. People who have a problem with women or black men in power aren't watching Star Trek to begin with. They might post a snide remark or two online, but they more than likely aren't watching and are just reacting to an image they saw or something they read. Ds9 never got the chance of being the sole Trek show because just as TNG ended, Voyager started up. As a Niner, I was VERY disappointed that Paramount was putting all its publicity behind Voyager when DS9, IMO, was a far superior show. The characters were much more interesting and the show wasn't afraid to take chances. To go from that to a show that was really TNG in the Delta Quadrant seemed like a step backwards. Not saying Voyager didn't have its moments and that DS9 didn't have some clunkers, but overall I just preferred what Ira Behr was doing. There was a large contingent of Trekkies that didn't think a show about a space station was Star Trek, and of course Rodenberry never wanted Star Trek to be about war. But if we're going to talk about issues that affect us in the here and now, how people deal with the tragedies of war are just as important as every other topic the franchise has tackled. So for me DS9 was very much Star Trek, just taken to the next level.
I do think Voyager had a great seasons 4 and 5, started tailing off in 6 and just went down the crapper in season 7. I loved Janeway, but she should have ended up with Chakotay at the end, not seven. I also really enjoyed the finale even though fans were dumping all over it at the time.
When it aired, I was mad that DS9 only got 3 months by itself on tv. (The first 10 episodes of season 3, then VOYAGER premiered.)
Looking back, this might have been a blessing in disguise, because with all the attention on VOYAGER, it allowed DS9 a bit more free reign to be the awesome show it was. Ira Steven Behr was able to win more fights against the suits for DS9 than if, say, Brannon Braga would make for VOYAGER.
Looking back, this might have been a blessing in disguise, because with all the attention on VOYAGER, it allowed DS9 a bit more free reign to be the awesome show it was. Ira Steven Behr was able to win more fights against the suits for DS9 than if, say, Brannon Braga would make for VOYAGER.
