What would you have liked to see in VOY?

[MDMart]

I loved how they did an episode about the two Ferengis from The Next Generation (the ones that went through the wormhole that then moved), but to be honest I was hoping for such episode. However, I was also very much hoping to see a changeling, seeing as we were told (in Deep Space Nine at some point), that the Changelings had sent out houndrets (or was it just 1 hundred,,, I forgot) of Changeling "babies" out into the universe, and so I just woulda loved an episode where they meet a Changeling.

How 'bout you, anything you woulda liked to see? I mean, they're in a whole new quadrent, the possibilities are endless

 

[crouteru]

More interesting species. In TNGs Q Who?, Q tells us that there are things in the galaxy that are beyong anything we could imagine (or something like that), yet Voyager only seems to encounter one-note forehead aliens with a theme slapped on them.

For example, the Vidians have the phage, and that one thing defines the entire species everytime we see them. Similarly, the Malon are essentially garbage men, and it's that aspect alone that we see each time Voyager runs into them.

In terms of connections to the other series, which is what I think the OP was getting at, Voyager had too many already, or more specifically, too many connection with the Alpha Quadrant. The ship is supposed to be alone and cut-off from everything that was familiar, as Jeri Taylor put it.

 

[scout]

I think Voyager suffered a little from being too episodic - I would have liked to have seen a recurring theme and more references carried over from previous episodes. Not something as restrictive as a story arc they had to reference in every episode but more of a fluid guideline, apart from trying to return to the Alpha Quadrant, of course!

I would have liked them to have referenced the Changelings as well, it always seemed strange they didn't, as one would assume the Dominion would have been a pretty big fish in that part of the universe. Perhaps not running smack bang into the Jem'Hadar (no feasible way Voyager could have withstood a sustained Jem'Hadar attack on multiple occasions) but perhaps they could have "discovered" one of the Changeling infants?

It could have been interesting to actually see the development of its awareness and attempts to communicate, which we only experienced through Odo discussing them, after they had occured. Apart from that one episode, where Quark somehow manages to acquire one, in the midst of the Dominion War, unbeknownst to Star Fleet Command

 

[Piper]

More recurring secondary crew members. Even more so than DS9, VOY was perfect for developing secondary characters over the course of the seven years. Imagine if we'd followed a character from S1, watched them grow and interact and develop, and then they'd been killed off S6 or something, that would have had a great impact. Where were the show's Nogs, their Garaks, their Kai Winns? We never saw them.

 

[GalaxyClass1701]

Like others have said I would have rather had the show be a seiral like the last two seasons of DS9.

Also a few more nonhumanoid aliens would have been nice.

 

[Anwar]

More recurring secondary crew members. Even more so than DS9, VOY was perfect for developing secondary characters over the course of the seven years. Imagine if we'd followed a character from S1, watched them grow and interact and develop, and then they'd been killed off S6 or something, that would have had a great impact. Where were the show's Nogs, their Garaks, their Kai Winns? We never saw them.

Too much money, and VOY was explicitly ordered NOT to do serial stories.

Besides, why would there be Kai Winns, Nogs or Garaks on VOY in the first place? The whole ship was populated entirely by Maquis and Fleeters, no ex-spies, little kids, or religious figures. It wouldn't make any sense.

 

[Piper]

More recurring secondary crew members. Even more so than DS9, VOY was perfect for developing secondary characters over the course of the seven years. Imagine if we'd followed a character from S1, watched them grow and interact and develop, and then they'd been killed off S6 or something, that would have had a great impact. Where were the show's Nogs, their Garaks, their Kai Winns? We never saw them.

Too much money, and VOY was explicitly ordered NOT to do serial stories.

Besides, why would there be Kai Winns, Nogs or Garaks on VOY in the first place? The whole ship was populated entirely by Maquis and Fleeters, no ex-spies, little kids, or religious figures. It wouldn't make any sense.

This is what we would have LIKED to have seen in VOY

Besides, I didn't mean literally Kai Winn or her type, obviously. I meant characters who grew over the course of the series, like those three...

 

[scout]

More recurring secondary crew members. Even more so than DS9, VOY was perfect for developing secondary characters over the course of the seven years. Imagine if we'd followed a character from S1, watched them grow and interact and develop, and then they'd been killed off S6 or something, that would have had a great impact. Where were the show's Nogs, their Garaks, their Kai Winns? We never saw them.

Too much money, and VOY was explicitly ordered NOT to do serial stories.

Besides, why would there be Kai Winns, Nogs or Garaks on VOY in the first place? The whole ship was populated entirely by Maquis and Fleeters, no ex-spies, little kids, or religious figures. It wouldn't make any sense.

I think Naomi Wildman would disagree

What would you have liked to have seen on voyager, Anwar? I would have also liked to have seen even MORE Doctor-heavy episodes...because I can never get enough of Picardo's comic timing

 

[DevilEyes]

More recurring secondary crew members. Even more so than DS9, VOY was perfect for developing secondary characters over the course of the seven years. Imagine if we'd followed a character from S1, watched them grow and interact and develop, and then they'd been killed off S6 or something, that would have had a great impact. Where were the show's Nogs, their Garaks, their Kai Winns? We never saw them.

Definitely. For instance, those Equinox crewmembers we never saw again.

I've always thought it was a mistake for Trek series in general to do so many episodes where the ship or main characters were put in danger. We always know that it is 99% certain that they will survive - unless it's the season finale and someone's contract is expiring - which removes any real suspense from the story. There are many times when I think "I would be on the edge of my seat if this was a film or a mini-series... but this way, I already know the outcome."

Instead, if they need to put someone in danger, it should be someone played by an actor who is billed as a guest star. That way we could really be afraid that they'll die (or hopeful - depending on what kind of emotion the character evokes in the audience). Redshirt deaths don't evoke strong reactions because we don't really know them that well. If you want suspense and an emotional reaction from the audience, you have to flesh out the characters, make viewers care. This is why it would have been much better if VOY had more recurring crewmember characters, especially with the number of 'ship/character in danger' episodes that VOY did. BSG did that well - they rarely killed main characters, but they had supporting characters who were developed enough for their deaths to have a meaning.

 

[Finn]

.... no ex-spies

Dude... Voyager had several

 

[Lynx]

More story arcs. That would have been perfect for Voyager.

More encounters with new species. That was actually what it was supposed to be about, exploring space and meetings with unknown species. The Kazon and Vidiians were good in the beginning but maybe they dragged them along longer than necessary (even if I did enjoy every episode with Culluh and Seska) and I won't go into the Borg here.

 

[KimMH]

more below decks characters - we got to see very little of the day to day lives of the little people - the file of the rank and file are the ones who keep the lights on and the plasma conduits scrubbed!

 

[PorthosShadow]

Of the many weaknessess Voyager had, I think the lack of a strong secondary cast was the worst. Then again the main cast wasn't that strong to begin with but anyway this show certainly had the potential to up the ante on character interaction in a way DS9 couldn't. DS9 was set in a familiar part of the universe to the characters and they could always get out whenever they wanted.

However, Voyager being in very "alien" territory it would have made sense for the crew to become a much closer family. Maybe to the point of xenophobia but maybe thats a bit extreem. Anyway, Voyager could have been so much more but they were more interested flash and no subtance, sigh.

 

[exodus]

Stumbling across what's left of the El Aruan home world, maybe.

I wouldn't have minded more off world stories instead of some holodeck ones.
For example, I think "The Killing Game" might have been a more intense type of story if crew were being hunted by the Hirogen on a planets surface than stuck on a holodeck in a Nazi story. I had to agree with the Beta male Hirogen in the story about how he thought is was pointless they dress up and play games with their prey.
To the Hirogen was are sport & food, why were they even talking to us?
Plus, it would have spared us the insult that Harry Kim was allowed to talk back to a Hirogen and not get his throat slit.

 

[Anwar]

.... no ex-spies

Dude... Voyager had several

Seska and Tuvok, only two. Both of which got focus.

I would've liked for them to just use the Kazon and Vidiians more (I know it's because the audience hated them, but still...) and more continuous stories. I wouldn't go for that "the ship gets more and more trashed as the show goes on" type stuff, because that is cliche.

I dunno, maybe have the warp drive get damaged in the second episode or something which justifies them spending more time in that region of space.

Course, it would get annoying if everytime they move into a new area of space with new races they'd have to keep getting the warp drive damaged to justify spending more time there.

And if there was to be a cliche mutiny, then have it be the Fleeters who want to oust Janeway and not the Maquis.

 

[T'Girl]

I think Naomi Wildman would disagree

The ship travels through a time warp, but the only one effected is Naomi Wildman.

 

[scout]

^^ I take it you would've liked to have seen SuddenlyAdult!Naomi? A whole lot apparently...

 

[Anwar]

Well, we have the knowledge now of how attractive she'd have been when she grew up...

 

[exodus]

.... no ex-spies

Dude... Voyager had several

Seska and Tuvok, only two. Both of which got focus.

I would've liked for them to just use the Kazon and Vidiians more (I know it's because the audience hated them, but still...) and more continuous stories. I wouldn't go for that "the ship gets more and more trashed as the show goes on" type stuff, because that is cliche.

I dunno, maybe have the warp drive get damaged in the second episode or something which justifies them spending more time in that region of space.

Course, it would get annoying if everytime they move into a new area of space with new races they'd have to keep getting the warp drive damaged to justify spending more time there.

And if there was to be a cliche mutiny, then have it be the Fleeters who want to oust Janeway and not the Maquis.

The problem with the Kazon was, they weren't intimidating.

They weren't cunning or smart. In all that time to chasing down Voyager, they never killed any of the crew. Ok, maybe Suder. 1 guy? maybe?

.....and they looked silly. That hair!

They looked like something out of a "Sinbad the sailor" movie than someone in space. Only thing missing were swords, a gold tooth and a little monkey on Culluh's shoulder.

.....or is that what Seska was?

 

[RandyS]

A final episode where the ship got home in the first two minutes instead of the last two. Then Janeway, Harry, and Tuvok could have dealt with Starfleet throwing Chakotay, Torres, and the other Maquis in jail, and sending Tom back to prison to finish his term, Seven of Nine would be sent to a lab for dissection so they could come up with a way to defeat the Borg once and for all, and the Doctor would also be sent to a lab to look at the additions to his program, and Janeway and the other two would spend the episode trying to get their friends out of trouble.

The crew had to forgive and forget in order to survive, but that didn't mean that Starfleet was going to.