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What do you love about DS9? Should I buy the series?

but the consequences of this episode in Sisko/Dukat interaction can be seen in stuff like "Defiant" and intermittently right up to "Waltz"; Dukat's effort to make himself understandable to Sisko, in a way.

I'd say the end of this two-parter actually marks the moment when Dukat and Sisko definitively become enemies. Up until the end Dukat sees Sisko as a potential ally in the sense that he perceives him as someone he might be able to manipulate successfully. Sisko proves resistant, though, so the battlelines are basically drawn from that point forward.

Having just rewatched these, it's Dukat who really shines. He comes across simultaneously as extremely charismatic, yet quite intimidating. The scene were the Maquis are trying ineptly to interrogate him is a classic.

They're good episodes for Sisko too, though, in the sense that they show him walking that thin line between loyalty to a friend and loyalty to Starfleet. Nothing groundbreaking, but nonetheless dealing with this conflict and Dukat at the same time displays a strength of character on Sisko's part. He has to navigate the temptation to give into either his friend or Dukat. In the end he does neither.

Cal is basically just a mirror image of Sisko, so there's not much to say about him other than he serves his purpose.

The other scenes that stand out are the ones between Sisko and Kira, who empathizes with the Maquis. I'd forgotten about this aspect of these episodes, but it's a actually a pretty substantial development in their relationship as well, in the sense that Sisko's "it's easy to be a saint in paradise speech" brings him to a better understanding of how Kira sees the world, as well as the Maquis.

Overall, better than I remembered. The main weakness is a certain stale quality in the interaction between Sisko and Cal. Their relationship feels overly rehearsed and a tad lifeless.
 
but the consequences of this episode in Sisko/Dukat interaction can be seen in stuff like "Defiant" and intermittently right up to "Waltz"; Dukat's effort to make himself understandable to Sisko, in a way.

I'd say the end of this two-parter actually marks the moment when Dukat and Sisko definitively become enemies. Up until the end Dukat sees Sisko as a potential ally in the sense that he perceives him as someone he might be able to manipulate successfully. Sisko proves resistant, though, so the battlelines are basically drawn from that point forward.
Eh, I don't think so. :cardie: Sisko hates Dukat's guts at the start of "The Maquis" (not surprising, since the last time Sisko saw Dukat, it was the episode "Cardassians" when he found out what Dukat did with Rugal just in order to hurt Kotan Pa'dar politically, and if Dukat ever seemed like an absolute bastard, it was in that episode). He shows his animosity towards Dukat very openly when Dukat first appears in his quarters (granted, the way he is just sitting there waiting for Sisko is pretty creepy), and even seems scared that Dukat might have kidnapped Jake! But throughout the two-parter, they develop a more complex relationship as unlikely allies - which continues in a similar way "Defiant", and will only finally come to an end in "By Inferno's Light". They even almost-friendly conversations about Dukat's children in both "The Maquis" and "Defiant", where Sisko seems to see Dukat in a little bit different light for the first time (it's funny that he is so surprised to learn that Dukat has children - why wouldn't he? - but I guess people can feel strange when they see someone they always thought of an enemy/bad guy is also a person with family, parent etc.). And there's that scene when Dukat bluffs the freighter captain into surrender through sheer attitude, and both Sisko and Kira look like they can't help being impressed (Kira was herself also great at getting people to back down through attitude - see "Emissary" - and Sisko will develop that kind of badassery later on ;) ).

Sisko/Dukat dynamic in the episode shows the clash of two different value systems - the Federation Stafleet one, and the more ruthless approach of the Cardassian military. But Sisko is not a hardcore believer in Federation Starfleet rules like Picard, which is why Picard would not have worked the same way in "The Maquis". With Picard, you just know that he'd be the proper embodiment of Starfleet morality. Sisko is a more complicated case, he is a commander who knows that sometimes you have to metaphorically twist a few arms and use a bit of intimidation and manipulation to get the job done (which is why he is willing to be Dukat's temporary ally if need arises, and why Dukat seems to have a certain respect for him than he probably doesn't for most Federation officers), but, like DS9 the show itself, Sisko still has most Federation "humane" (for lack of better word) values at heart, even though he has a more pragmatic approach to fighting for them. There are lines he wasn't prepared to cross... though, over time, those lines stretched quite a bit. Considering the way Sisko dealt with the Maquis in "For the Uniform", one may say that he learned a few lessons from Dukat, didn't he?
 
Considering the way Sisko dealt with the Maquis in "For the Uniform", one may say that he learned a few lessons from Dukat, didn't he?
Heh. It wouldn't surprise me if he thought something like this:

"Okay, so I have to play the role of the 'bad guy' here, huh? Hm, in that case, what would Dukat do?"
 
I've read the posts and couldn't agree more. I purchased the series and consider it to be an "investment" of sorts. Pleased to see that you did the same. Theatre trained actors, "award winning" scripts that allowed for in depth character development and dealt with issues that we deal w/today both politically on the domestic front as well as globally. The visual presentation was never lacking either. Some of the "bad guys" possessed an element of compassion. I can only speak for myself when I say that the "station" became my home away from home and the crew, my extended family....and did you ever see a finer ship than the DEFIANT???????
 
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