I love SG1, especially Richard Dean Anderson!
I hope we get a sequel one day, no reboot
I hope we get a sequel one day, no reboot
Watching & Missing Stargate
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I love the first 7 seasons of Stargate SG1. It had the potential to be bigger I believe if they had gone the movie route (as planned) after season 7 instead of rehashing stuff it would have really taken off. Richard Dean Anderson was a big part of the show for me so his absence in later seasons also added to to my lack of enthusiasm for the show later on. Stargate Atlantis I enjoyed but it didn't hit the same highs as SG1 and just felt like both shows were starting to tread water when BSG came along and made a show that was taking Sci-fi to another level. SGU I watched the pilot and felt it to be uninteresting and trying to capitalize on BSG. I don't mean to sound harsh in my post because I really hold SG1 in high regard and remember being super pumped for it each week, it's the TNG of it's day, but unlike TNG it was solid from season 1. The age of CGI effects helped elevate it too. I would love it if I had the time to sit down and rewatch it all from start to finish and this time do SGU and Stargate Infinity.
How was the reception to the show in America? Was it big? I know it's popular but that's only in the SF circles I travel in. I rarely hear anyone talk about the show these days.
How was the reception to the show in America? Was it big? I know it's popular but that's only in the SF circles I travel in. I rarely hear anyone talk about the show these days.
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The show was cancelled by Showtime after 5 seasons and picked up by SciFi for Season 6. The S5 finale was decided not to be a cliffhanger, because not everyone with Showtime would be following the show on SciFi. Season 6 was expected to be the final season, "Full Circle" written as the series finale. The show was going to be followed up with Stargate: The Lost City in movie theaters, then Atlantis would be found in Antarctica (not the Pegasus galaxy) and be a sequel, not a spin-off. SciFi renewed the show, so we got Season 7. Before they could come up with a season finale, SciFi renewed the show for Season 8 and Atlantis. This meant reworking the movie into the S7 finale and changing Atlantis's setting from Antarctica to the Pegasus galaxy. Now that they had a spin-off show, SG-1 bowed out with S8 and closed out many storylines, ending with a trilogy of episodes (Reckoning, Parts 1&2 and Threads) and an epic 2-part time travel themed series finale. SciFi renewed the show for Season 9, but RDA declined to return to spend time with his family. He came back for cameos in the S9 premiere and 3rd episode and then retired from acting all together. After a year, he got to guest star on The Simpsons, RDA's favorite show. His daughter encourated him to return to acting part-time. This led to his return to Stargate for 5 episodes, 2 on SG-1 (S10), 3 on Atlantis (S3), Continuum, and a recurring role on the first season of Universe. RDA retired from acting entirely in 2013. Would you believe he is 74 now?
If you want to give the franchise a second show and watch everything, here's the watch list I shared ealeir.
Stargate (film)
SG-1 (Seasons 1-7)
SG-1 (S8) / Atlantis (S1)
SG-1 (S9) / Atlantis (S2)
SG-1 (S10) / Atlantis (S3)
The Ark of Truth (SG-1 film) / Continuum (2nd SG-1 film)
Atlantis (Seasons 4-5)
Universe (2 seasons)
Origins: Katherine (prequel)
Infinity isn't canon, so you can skip the cartoon unless you really want to see it. I never watched BSG, so I cannot comment on how that effected SGU. I will say SGU's worth seeing. I bailed after the opening 3 episodes during its original 2009-11 run. Years later, I gave it a second go, still not sold on the opening 3-parter. I gave the 4th and 5th episodes a shot, a two-parter, and I was sold. For most people, mid-S1 is where it found its footing.
I enjoyed Season 8 for the most part though I thought Daniel shifted a little bit too much at times.
The Ori started out as an interesting villain but grew a bit repetitive at times.
The two films were hit and miss. I enjoyed Ark of Truth, though a bit odd twists at times. Continuum was very frustrating.
I enjoyed Atlantis quite a bit but never got on to Universe.
What do you mean by Daniel shifting too much? I believe the original idea for the Ori was a movie about evil ancients, but when renewed for S9, they replaced the Goa'uld as the new big bad guys. Did you feel The Ark of Truth provided a good conclusion to the Ori saga? I liked the movie, but...
...was frustrating, because Adria was defeated by a falling box. She can throw people around like rag dolls, but she couldn't catch the box when the table broke and fell? She couldn't just toss the box aside, so it didn't project truth light onto the Doci? This one scene always bugged me, but otherwise great film.
Daniel took on a bit of the snarky sarcasm that O'Neill was known for. He has a rougher edge at times.
Ark of Truth I definitely wanted a better climax and defeat. Overall, it was pretty good.
Continuum brought back my least favorite enemy.
Fair enough on Daniel. He's my favorite character on the show, so I didn't mind him picking up the O'Neill slack.
That was part of his arc too, "spending too much time with O'Neill," even occasionally acknowledged in show. 
I'm glad we agree on that one TAOT scene. 
Ba'al was your least favorite enemy?
They're in The Ark of Truth, not Continuum.
Whoops, you're right.They're in The Ark of Truth, not Continuum.
Yes, I did not like them in Ark of Truth. Continuum did well but I felt Ba'al was not as well used but it was a good film. Just didn't stick with me. I prefer the original film and early SG 1.
That's what they were trying to do with Continuum, aim it for the pre-Ori SG-1 fans. I'm sorry that didn't land with you. For me, the film is bittersweet. Filmed in 2007, released in 2008, it's the last time we see the SG-1 team all together. Sure, we had Carter in Atlantis S4 and various guest appearances sprinkled across SGA S4-5 and SGU S1, but it's not the same.
I'm on the last disc of S7 of SG-1, and it's bittersweet. Next up is "Resurrection," lacking O'Neill. After that, this season's "clip show" episode. Then the feature-length episode "Lost City" to bow out the season, probably my favorite episode of the series. Next season (S8), O'Neill is basically on desk duty except for, 4 episodes, I think? Then he's gone from the show mostly. He does come back twice in S9, twice in S10. He also pops up in Continuum, 4 episodes of Atlantis, and a recurring role on SGU's 1st season. I like how they kept the character alive through guest appearances and cameos rather than just dialogue.
I just finished off SG-1's 7th season this morning. I forgot how cinematic "Lost City" was and loved that the DVD presents the 2-parter as a tele-movie. Lots of change at the end of S7. 
S7 marks the end of classic SG-1, S8 being what I like to call "climatic" SG-1 before the show got a soft-reset at the start of S9. Taking a little break to focus on some other shows, then on to S8 and Atlantis S1. 
Doc. Frasier is killed off in "Heroes, Part 2." General Hammond is reassigned to Washington and replaced with Dr. Weir, setting her up for Atlantis. This was the final season with the original cast line up of the team (O'Neill, Jackson, Sam, Teal'c), General Hammond, and Doc. Frasier. Moving on to S8, the dynamics are all very different, Hammond is reduced to three guest appearances (all brilliant), and Doc. Frasier is naturally absent.
Well, I finally have seen the prequel movie Stargate Origins: Katherine. It's about 1 hour, 40 minutes long, so it's a full-length movie. It acts as a prequel to the movie but takes into account SG-1 mythology. This felt very amateur, very low budget, "TV movie" territory. When the Goa'uld talk, I felt like there should have been subtitles like in the movie, but alas, no subtitles. Maybe Roku messed up? A few scenes were even lifted from the movie along with the end credits music from the 2 SG-1 movies to serve as end credits music for this movie, to save money. Basically, I felt like I was watching a fan film. The only actor I recognized was Connor Trinneer of Enterprise fame (Trip Tucker). He also had a role on Atlantis. In the film, the Stargate is found in 1928. This prequel movie takes place in 1938, ten years later. There are some subtle connections to a number of SG-1 episodes, but this can easily be viewed as a prequel to the movie and enjoyed as such.
If you are new to Stargate, please do NOT start with this, it'll ruin all of the mystery of the original movie! I would argue, watch the movie, dive into SG-1, and at least watch SG-1's first season before watching this. If you're very familiar with both the movie and SG-1, you'll spot a lot of easter eggs in this prequel.
If you are new to Stargate, please do NOT start with this, it'll ruin all of the mystery of the original movie!
I would argue, watch the movie, dive into SG-1, and at least watch SG-1's first season before watching this. If you're very familiar with both the movie and SG-1, you'll spot a lot of easter eggs in this prequel.I don't think I addressed this before. In the US, Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis were big hits on cable TV and sold well on DVD. SGU was poorly timed, its cancellation was a mix of low ratings and MGM going bankrupt. While not the hit that the first two shows were, it does have a small diehard audience.
Indeed, that's the order, that I'd recommend.If you are new to Stargate, please do NOT start with this, it'll ruin all of the mystery of the original movie!
I love a lot of Stargate but not all Stargate.
I love the first film.
I love SG-1 up until Season 8 and then I like a lot of the next two seasons but I think it started repeating itself. I really don't like the two films.
I like Atlantis season 1, and bits and pieces of the other seasons.
And I really enjoy the Stargate books by Bill McCay that act as a sequel to the film. Those have some really wild stuff happen and it's interesting to see how SG-1 would parallel them or not. It's also way more gritty and often time uncomfortable but the core characters from the film are still just as upstanding as their SG-1 counterparts. I especially like what they did with Sha'uri. I also got a kick out of Creek Mountain and Cheyenne Mountain having roles to play.
I love the first film.
I love SG-1 up until Season 8 and then I like a lot of the next two seasons but I think it started repeating itself. I really don't like the two films.
I like Atlantis season 1, and bits and pieces of the other seasons.
And I really enjoy the Stargate books by Bill McCay that act as a sequel to the film. Those have some really wild stuff happen and it's interesting to see how SG-1 would parallel them or not. It's also way more gritty and often time uncomfortable but the core characters from the film are still just as upstanding as their SG-1 counterparts. I especially like what they did with Sha'uri. I also got a kick out of Creek Mountain and Cheyenne Mountain having roles to play.
Looking back I enjoyed the first seasons when it was focused on the core team and their adventures on planets that looked like Canada.
The later seasons where they started to become superheroes, the whole galaxy knew who they were "The infamous SG-1!" and their tech went into full Star Trek mode. It just wasn't the same after RDA left.
They started to get too aware of their surrounding
" We saved the world how many times now? 8?"
The later seasons where they started to become superheroes, the whole galaxy knew who they were "The infamous SG-1!" and their tech went into full Star Trek mode. It just wasn't the same after RDA left.
They started to get too aware of their surrounding
" We saved the world how many times now? 8?"
SG-1 is my go to show when I think about the best use of semi-serialisation. I love how it would revisit elements and remix things. One arc I love is the reveal of the Beta gate in "Solitudes." That opened up so many doors to stories where it's used or it's previous use is felt, like the rogue NID's use of it or how it enables the Russian stargate project.
Personally I hope any new series is a reboot. I think the shows moved too far away from the original idea. I would even have it that FTL is so slow that the only way to move around effectively is through the gate. The SG-1verse could just be some other universe in the multiverse that they could encounter in an episode.
Personally I hope any new series is a reboot. I think the shows moved too far away from the original idea. I would even have it that FTL is so slow that the only way to move around effectively is through the gate. The SG-1verse could just be some other universe in the multiverse that they could encounter in an episode.
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