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USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

Has the "visual reboot" been confirmed by the members of the production? Because until it's flat out stated I'm not going for that. It's not ludicrous, It has an established look and should follow it. Beef up the quality of things but follow the look. That's common sense.

Not when you are trying to attract new fans. It's the very opposite of common sense. TOS aesthetic would be laughed at as "future tech" by anyone who is not already a life long Trekkie.
 
Yes yes because "Modern audiences" wouldn't accept it, I've heard it hundreds of times and even now it's still a dumb excuse. Guess what. I am the modern audience. I'm 26 and have been a Star Trek fan for 10 years. I see nothing wrong with the Constitution Class design and I don't think it should be redesigned. Since it's a prequel it should be faithful to such designs.
And have blinkenlights display panels? How about the TOS space suit?
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There's a thing of beauty. We must be faithful to the architects. All future EVA's will be conducted in that shiny wonder. Because we must have visual continuity. THAT is over two centuries more modern than the new SpaceX suits.

The wireframe more or less looks like a constitution class ship to me. It's got a saucry thing, two long tube things and one stouter tube thing between the long tube things and the saucer thing. I'm good.
 
Not when you are trying to attract new fans. It's the very opposite of common sense. TOS aesthetic would be laughed at as "future tech" by anyone who is not already a life long Trekkie.
I don't see how changing the look of established things are good for new fans when if they were looking to experience the other shows. Wouldn't they be asking why does this look different? And such. It sounds so much more confusing and counter productive than it should.


And have blinkenlights display panels? How about the TOS space suit?
There's a thing of beauty. We must be faithful to the architects. All future EVA's will be conducted in that shiny wonder. Because we must have visual continuity. THAT is over two centuries more modern than the new SpaceX suits.

The wireframe more or less looks like a constitution class ship to me. It's got a saucry thing, two long tube things and one stouter tube thing between the long tube things and the saucer thing. I'm good.

That space suit looks dated yes because it was made of cheap and inexpensive materials of the decade. I wonder what a slight update with more expensive materials and new costume design tools would look like. :)
 
I think it will in fact look like this. We saw a Federation Constitution that everyone on the Discovery knew was a Constitution at once. They saw a 20 year old ship, not a 110+ heavily modified ship( which is its age in the MU)



ENT it looked like crap. It looked like what it was, a design decades older than the far more advanced NX. It looked silly, like someone 1920's roadster supposed to be more advanced than the 72 corvette. It was a play up to the fans and really makes it hard to watch as its looks silly.



We agree here, I hate that redesign.
That’s how I took it. They didn’t comment on why it looked different, they wondered what it was doing in that universe. That design is more in line with the other Starfleet ships we’ve seen and if you squint looks enough like the old TOS model. I’m almost certain we’ll see the Enterprise at some point during the show’s run and it isn’t going to look like the old design, it would be completely out of the place next to the Discovery.
 
Has the "visual reboot" been confirmed by the members of the production? Because until it's flat out stated I'm not going for that. It's not ludicrous, It has an established look and should follow it. Beef up the quality of things but follow the look. That's common sense.


Ummm, its been confirmed it is the very same timeline as TOS, You have seen images of the show correct?
 
That’s how I took it. They didn’t comment on why it looked different, they wondered what it was doing in that universe. That design is more in line with the other Starfleet ships we’ve seen and if you squint looks enough like the old TOS model. I’m almost certain we’ll see the Enterprise at some point during the show’s run and it isn’t going to look like the old design, it would be completely out of the place next to the Discovery.


Thank you, it is so mindboggling I have to keep saying this to people, over and over.
 
I don't see how changing the look of established things are good for new fans when if they were looking to experience the other shows. Wouldn't they be asking why does this look different? And such. It sounds so much more confusing and counter productive than it should.




That space suit looks dated yes because it was made of cheap and inexpensive materials of the decade. I wonder what a slight update with more expensive materials and new costume design tools would look like. :)
Anyone with common sense would realize it was a limitation of prop making and special effects at the time while focusing on the story, which is the only aspect of TOS that still works. The special effects, acting and tone are extremely dated, even TNG-VOY is. Doesn’t make it bad, we’ve just moved on.
 
Do I need to make a comparison picture?
You don't need to, you can if you want. Maybe you will then notice the lack of concave in the saucer and the odd notches on its edge, the differently shaped secondary hull, the crazy elongated deflector and the ungainly backwards bending neck.
 
You don't need to, you can if you want. Maybe you will then notice the lack of concave in the saucer and the odd notches on its edge, the differently shaped secondary hull, the crazy elongated deflector and the ungainly backwards bending neck.


Yeah it has the same very basic shape, but its not the same design.
 
Once more, as Blood pointed out this was not what we saw. The Crew saw a current Constitution class starship, not a modified one. They had zero issue with how it looked, this to them as a current Federation Constitution class ship.
All we saw was a wire-frame of a ship that the Terran Empire had in its possession for over 103+ years at the point the Discovery arrived. Anything could be valid: IE - It could be the final form of that particular ship after it had been in MU service; or it could be the 2017 version of a Constitution/Starship Class the current series producers signed off on -- but without/until further clarification EITHER supposition is valid. ;))
 
That space suit looks dated yes because it was made of cheap and inexpensive materials of the decade. I wonder what a slight update with more expensive materials and new costume design tools would look like. :)
Like shit, if it still is baggy and had that weird blindside helmet and dangerously exposed snaggable hoses everywhere. Like much of TOS, including the ship, they fixed it with TMP and subsequent movies.

But even if it didn't and you changed it somewhat, how is that any different than a visual update to a Constitution. I grew up watching TOS as a kid in the early 70s on day time reruns. I remember Balok's head on the end credits as well as I can remember Mr Rodgers changing his cardigan. I honestly don't care if they update the look of the ship. It's a new show, much as the old show was a show. It has no inherent reality. If there is interest in decades from now they'll remake Trek again and it will be updated again, and somewhere there will still be hardcore fans complaining, somehow imagining they are key to the economic viability of Trek when they generally aren't. Meanwhile, if I want to see the old ship I'll watch TOS or STC.
 
You don't need to, you can if you want. Maybe you will then notice the lack of concave in the saucer and the odd notches on its edge, the differently shaped secondary hull, the crazy elongated deflector and the ungainly backwards bending neck.

the secondary hull is the same shape as the connie.
 
I don't see how changing the look of established things are good for new fans when if they were looking to experience the other shows. Wouldn't they be asking why does this look different? And such. It sounds so much more confusing and counter productive than it should.

Because anyone with any sense would immediately know it's because the old shows were products of their decade, and not give it another thought. I started watching the new Doctor Who in 2013, but I still knew who the Cybermen were when I went back and looked at old episodes. Likewise, the Enterprise is not going to be a radical departure from TOS. It will still 75-80% look like the TOS Enterprise. Just some tweaks to bring it up to a modern look. Something along these lines is my guess...

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