USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

[Tuskin38]

We’ve already seen the angled struts on the Enterprise in the trailers though. Not straight like on that panel.

Though what’s interesting, is that the colouring doesn’t match Eaves’s final concept art. His final art colouring was identical to what we got in the show. It should be much darker, light hitting the screen wouldn’t light it up that much.

 

[Andru]

The screen is big indeed, but it might end up in the far background or out of focus in the actual scene so we won't be able to tell the difference anyway. It would be nice to canonize the 2245 launch date and Captain April's 5-year mission though.

 

[DaveyNY]

We’ve already seen the angled struts on the Enterprise in the trailers though. Not straight like on that panel.

Though what’s interesting, is that the colouring doesn’t match Eaves’s final concept art. His final art colouring was identical to what we got in the show. It should be much darker, light hitting the screen wouldn’t light it up that much.

Yeah, it's like...
"Hey look at this!"
"No wait!"
"Look at this instead!"

Damn frustrating.

 

[Andru]

Where is Mr Okuda when we need him...

 

[DaveyNY]

Here's the video the pic is from...
(click on the "WATCH ON FACEBOOK" link, it'll play in another window/tab)

The pic in question is at the :19 sec mark.

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There's another shot of a Discovery Station with pretty much the same graphic at the :22 mark.
(in much higher quality)

Now I highly doubt that They will CGI over that graphic.

 

[cooleddie74]

A height of 76.2 meters? Good. This means she's not going to be ridiculously oversized for this time period. This matches the original Franz Joseph dimensions for the TOS Enterprise's height which means she can no longer be more than 400 meters long unless she's stretched out like a piece of taffy in a Spacedock-sized pull, which we know isn't going to happen.

At least someone in the production crew finally realized that blowing up everything to an inconsistent and ridiculous size just because "cool" wasn't exactly the best idea. I have to say I had a very pleasant reaction to seeing that graphic.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Here's the enhanced version, cropped from the Trekyards video.

With the altered proportions of the Disco Enterprise, those specifications from the old Star Fleet Technical Manual don't make sense. I'm guessing it was intended as early placeholder stuff with early Enterprise concept art which never got updated.

 

[cooleddie74]

She looks so much better with the straight pylons even if they still have the slice cut out of the middle of each. Eaves' original pylons should have been what we saw in the first place.

 

[Tuskin38]

The angled pylons and darker hull colouring seen in the Season 1 finale are present on the poster and in the last couple trailers, so they’re not changing the look, at least not for episode 1.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

I can't wait to see more of THAT Enterprise.

 

[DaveyNY]

Actually, it seems that DIsco-Enterprise may be RE-retconned back to those spec's in Season 2 of the show.

And Eagle-Moss has slightly delayed the release of the DIsco-Enterprise with no reason given.

Also, John Eaves posted a few pics on his FB page that shows a prototype of the Season-1 ship with the lighter TOS coloring from the "Destination Star Trek" convention in Birmingham that he attended.
https://www.facebook.com/john.eaves.526

I have a feeling that EM may be making TWO version of the DIsco-Enterprise to release eventually.

 

[Tuskin38]

A height of 76.2 meters? Good. This means she's not going to be ridiculously oversized for this time period. This matches the original Franz Joseph dimensions for the TOS Enterprise's height which means she can no longer be more than 400 meters long unless she's stretched out like a piece of taffy in a Spacedock-sized pull, which we know isn't going to happen.

At least someone in the production crew finally realized that blowing up everything to an inconsistent and ridiculous size just because "cool" wasn't exactly the best idea. I have to say I had a very pleasant reaction to seeing that graphic.

I would not take these specs as accurate. They match the tech manual 1:1, which wouldn’t be possible with the redesign’s proportions

 

[Tuskin38]

Actually, it seems that DIsco-Enterprise may be RE-retconned back to those spec's in Season 2 of the show.

And Eagle-Moss has slightly delayed the release of the DIsco-Enterprise with no reason given.

Also, John Eaves posted a few pics on his FB page that shows a prototype of the ship with the lighter TOS coloring from the "Destination Star Trek" convention in Birmingham that he attended.
https://www.facebook.com/john.eaves.526

That colouring isn’t any different then what we’ve seen already.

ON a side note, it seems that EM is also going to be releasing versions of the Star Trek Online Temporal Line of ships.

Speaking of STO, Eaves using a screenshot of their Engle class model as his Facebook header, heh.

Also the Bonaventure there isn’t from STO.
You might be confusing it with another ship.

 

[cooleddie74]

As long as she's not about 450 meters long and closer to 300 I can overlook some inaccurate specs on a computer readout. There are issues with the dimensions of every version of the NCC-1701 in both the Prime and Kelvin Timelines so this won't be anything new. In the end I can easily dismiss some nitpicks re: the Franz Joseph specifications if she's not a juggernaut compared to her TOS version.

 

[DaveyNY]

That colouring isn’t any different then what we’ve seen already.


Speaking of STO, Eaves using a screenshot of their Engle class model as his Facebook header, heh.

Also the Bonaventure there isn’t from STO.
You might be confusing it with another ship.

I was... took it out of the post. oopsie...

 

[Tuskin38]

As long as she's not about 450 meters long and closer to 300 I can overlook some inaccurate specs on a computer readout. There are issues with the dimensions of every version of the NCC-1701 in both the Prime and Kelvin Timelines so this won't be anything new. In the end I can easily dismiss some nitpicks re: the Franz Joseph specifications if she's not a juggernaut compared to her TOS version.

400 meter range fits better with the interior set sizes, on both the TOS and refit versions.

King Daniel can probably explain it better.

 

[cooleddie74]

Eh. To each their own. The Trek universe functioned just fine with a 289-meter TOS Enterprise until this year. In the end most Federation starships cram more into their hulls than should probably be logical for vessels of their established sizes.

 

[DaveyNY]

Here's the enhanced version, cropped from the Trekyards video.

With the altered proportions of the Disco Enterprise, those specifications from the old Star Fleet Technical Manual don't make sense. I'm guessing it was intended as early placeholder stuff with early Enterprise concept art which never got updated.

But this is apparently from scenes filmed fairly recently, it doesn't make any sense to have that particular info so prominently displayed this late in production.
Nor does it make sense to ?mistakenly? release it at a time when They are apparently trying very hard to publically woo Trek Fans back.
I could see if this was released back just after the end of Season-1, but we're one month away from the show airing.
If it is "wrong" then They've just chit on the very fan's They've been after for the last seven months.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

Maybe when Spock got out of his space asylum he used his Vulcan strength to push the Pylons back into the correct position.

 

[F. King Daniel]

But this is apparently from scenes filmed fairly recently, it doesn't make any sense to have that particular info so prominently displayed this late in production.
Nor does it make sense to ?mistakenly? release it at a time when They are apparently trying very hard to publically woo Trek Fans back.
I could see if this was released back just after the end of Season-1, but we're one month away from the show airing.
If it is "wrong" then They've just chit on the very fan's They've been after for the last seven months.

These are the same VFX people who put Starbase One in Earth orbit when dialogue said it was 100 AU out.

And remember, Star Trek Beyond had the ST'09/ID version on the ship on 90% of their bridge graphics when she'd been slimmed down and given swept back nacelle pylons. And Mike Sussman went nuts writing those NX-01 crew fate biogs for ENT "In a Mirror, Darkly" never expecting them to be shown close-up.