I never understood why people think the Star Trek II -VII uniforms are such a departure. Take away the maroon jacket, and they're essentially the uniforms from The Cage and Where No Man Has Gone Before. In fact, change the maroon to gray, and they resemble the field jackets worn by Pike and his landing party. To me, they fit more neatly into resembling the TOS uniforms, which I also like, than any of the other films.
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I decided to play around with the TMP uniforms again this time making them the same color as the TOS uniforms without dimming the colors down. In addition I played around with Kirk's T-shirt uniform and Landing party jacket uniform. I Also played around with the TWOK turtleneck tunics and made them a leisurely duty outfit sans the big maroon jackets.
Not really. They have ribbed turtleneck collars and the trouser cuffs are the same, and that's about it. The shirts don't have rank insignia or breast badges, so they are pretty clearly not intended to be worn without the jacket like TOS uniforms. Combine that with the abundance of stripes, straps, buckles and pins and add the totally different style of enlisted uniforms and I'd say they are about the most un-TOS uniforms of all.
Well I like to think that the Maroon Jackets were simply the dress uniform of that Era so it would stay the same, Hence why I didn't edit them. While I like the TWOK uniforms, I thought it would be interesting to make the field jacket a different color so it wouldn't be a bright color.
Yeah, really. A solid color shirt with a ribbed collar and black bell-bottom pants with black boots. The rest is trivial for the shirt and pants -- a couple of sleeve bands and a patch.
The jackets are more ornate, but they have the same flap and on the same side as the field jackets in The Cage. The concepts are the same, if the executions different.
Take away the jackets, and you have an 80s version of the 60s uniform. The jackets were likely added to hide the bulging waistlines of an aging crew.
What's reallly different are the TNG spandex suits. They look like scuba outfits, and if not for the color, would not seem like Star Trek at all. The silly pips and weird shoulder strips that make it look like they're wearing a cape or shawl are a significant departure. But the worst are the Enterprise uniforms, which make everyone look like a 1950s gas station attendant.
Snappy. Though the uniforms on the lower row are getting a little too close to the Wiggles.
I deleted the photo so as not to be redundant, but I like the recoloring of the uniforms, though I agree that the jacket is a bit drab, but having some department coloration in the accents, not the main body, might help. Sorry, small critique, no offense meant.
Just have the rank stripes on the sleeves, and I'm set to go
I always thought that the TWOK uniforms could work if the jacket had been black, with the TOS series colors used for the turtle necks, and the rank system being kept the same. I think the colors pop more than the ones actually used.
Good work
Federation historians often comment on the influence of the entertainers known as "The Wiggles" in their uniform concepts.
"The Wiggles featured a philosophy that was open and accepting of all life forms, as well as colors that allowed for ease of identification from a distance. Also, that music was really catchy"
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Rank designation is trivial? That's pretty much the most basic information conveyed on a military uniform. When working or combat uniforms are pared down to a minimum of insignia, the rank indicators are the last to go. All the duty uniforms used in Star Trek have indicated rank. The shirts in TWOK were clearly not to be worn alone for normal duty like the TOS ones were; in fact when Kirk and co. return from the Genesis asteroid crew members immediately help them into their uniform jackets.
But the "Cage" jackets were not worn for shipboard duty, the TWOK ones were. The "Cage" jackets were not covered with eye-candy like the maroon ones. Enlisted personnel in TOS wore the same type of uniforms as officers, in TWOK they had a completely different style. Those are the reasons I find the TWOK uniforms so different in concept from TOS.
I knew something didn't look right with my TWOK uniform redesign...Just take my design, merge it with the Galaxy Quest uniforms and you got the wiggles costumes. BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD!
Yeah, it's trivial considering it's less than 2% of the uniform. The overall concept is just a slight derivation of the original pilot uniforms, once the jacket is taken off.
The point is not the purpose of the jacket but it's overall design, with the cavalry-style flap. One can easily see Bob Fletcher watching the early episodes and taking his "inspiration" from what he saw, not that he ever actually said that.
And enlisted personnel did not always wear the same uniforms. There are plenty of times when workers wore coveralls throughout the series. The jumpers they wore in TWOK could just be the later version of those.
Those were worn by officers as well.
The point is that there were multiple uniforms worn by the crew in both TOS and TWOK. It still doesn't change the fact that the basic design of the TWOK uniforms, minus the jacket, is essentially the uniforms from the two pilots.
But the officer uniforms were not worn by enlisted in the TWOK scheme as they were in TOS, that's a fundamental difference.
I see your point that those articles of clothing shared a similar basic design. I just personally factor in more than basic cut in what is conceptually similar or not. I find the rest of Trek uniforms -- same basic design for all personnel, uncluttered design, simple rank insignia, one organizational badge -- to be closer to each other than to the TWOK style.
Maybe they are what the US army calls "specialists". They are lower ranks with special knowledge and experience (and a pay bump):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specialist_(rank)
Why would they be in their dress uniforms when on everyday type duty? My father rarely wore his when on duty.
