Yup. It being 14 aka threequelten, is the only way really. And kind of what I expected, because frankly it — and all this media buzz — is what the show needs right now.
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Yup. It being 14 aka threequelten, is the only way really. And kind of what I expected, because frankly it — and all this media buzz — is what the show needs right now.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1526996137466552322
Something big must happening
and we have confirmation the special is set around the Christmas holidays
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1527031887318876162
Everyone take cover! Don't go out tonight! It's a RTD Christmas special!
If that's based on the lights, those are part of Camden Market, not set dressing. (If you watch 'Eternals' you'll see them there too, as the big opening scene is set in the same are.)
Ncuti Gatwa is the Fourteenth Doctor.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61371123
From the article:
People need to get over this 'Jodie regenerates into David Tennant' BS.
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As true as that is, I can also see the argument (and even agree with it) that multi Doctor stories have been done, while the Doctor "reverse regenerating" into a previous incarnation is something new.
I mean, the supposed insider telling us that Whittaker will regenerate into Tennant has so far been proven right about everything else they reported, these photos are proof of that. Is it really so hard to believe they could be right about the one thing that hasn't yet been proven?
They're not, though, because we know absolutely nothing about the context of the shooting that's being done.
I can't help but notice, BTW, that you completely ignored the part of my post in which I demonstrated that, contrary to fandom belief, the BBC did in fact confirm Ncuti Gatwa as being the Fourteenth Doctor.
The photos prove that Tennant is back, Catherine Tate is back, Bernard Cribbins is back. Official reports confirm there's a new character named Rose, all of which was originally leaked by the insider.
And? No one is denying Ncuti Gatwa is the Fourteenth Doctor. If Whittaker is indeed reverse regenerating into Tennant, then that means we're going back to the Tenth Doctor before we move onto the Fourteenth. It's no different than how things are already done, we call Tennant the Tenth Doctor even though he is technically actually the Eleventh (to account for the War Doctor) and the Twelfth (or at least he was after The Stolen Earth).
In the words of Nathaniel Wayne, the host of the Council of Geeks YouTube channel, "Just Stop".
Your track record being what is is when it comes to predictions, consider taking your own advice.
Now you know how we (and I mean beyond this forum) feel when it comes to arguing with you on the daily.
In the words of Nathaniel Wayne, the host of the Council of Geeks YouTube channel, "Just Stop".
That's an article from the BBC news, but that bit isn't a statement from the Who production team, it's an assumption by the reporter. One that the producers would definitely not correct if they want to maintain a surprise.
Believe whatever you want. I'll stick to the facts.
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The return no one saw coming...
Moisturise me!!
(Or it could just be the screen they're using to block people's view but what are the odds of that.)
You missed a vital bit clue in that picture.......bottom left......a green man upside down...........now WHO helped children cross the road in the 1970s AND was in a story were people were found dead and GREEN......??.........yeap that's right........John Pertwee, so it's confirmed, Whittiker will de-generate into John Pertee but it goes wrong and the doctor ends up half Rani, half Valyard, half Tennent, half Gatwa........and that makes four halves, and we all know what that means!
Ok, the facts so far which seem irrefutable.
1. David Tennant is playing the Doctor.
2. While he's dressed like the Doctor he's wearing an outfit we've never seen before.
3. He's using Whittaker's Tardis
4. He's interacting with Donna and as far as we know the last time he saw Donna he was keeping his distance at her wedding lest he make her head explode and this was at the tail end of his grand farewell tour seemingly minutes before he regenerated.
5. It's definitely set now given Wilf looks older and Donna has a daughter.
So hypothetically what's happening?
1. Somehow Ten found a way to reverse the Doctor Donna issue during his farewell tour but, rather than reversing the damage he instead hopped into the future-changing outfits and Tardis for some reason- so he could have another adventure with Donna who's now able to remember him. At the end of their adventure he went back- changing outfits and Tardis once more- so he could visit her wedding and the regenerate.
2. This isn't Ten, it's the Metracrisis Doctor who's somehow returned from Pete's World having worked out how to save Donna. In returning to our universe he's found a Tardis which just happens to look like 13's.
4. It's all happening in someone's head/ it's an illusion/Land of Fiction/ The Matrix etc.
5. Jodie regenerates into David who'll then regenerate into Nucuti.
I mean Occam's razor and all that.
We do need to find some way of rationalising Doctor numbering. What makes most sense is the idea of an official Doctor. The current long term Doctor, not a one off. In this respect Gatwa is still the 14th Doctor (and Eccleston is still the Ninth because Hurt was a one off Doctor). This means Hurt, the Metacrisis Doctor, Jo Martin's Doctor and, potentially, Tennant 2.0, are still Doctors but they're outside the numbering scheme.
That works quite elegantly except insofar as you have to treat McGann as an official long term Doctor, not a one off Doctor. I mean when McGann was hired it wasn't with a short term intention. He was hired to be The Doctor, so that does make him different to Hurt/Martin/Tennant 2.0 who were only ever hired as short term options.
I may have given this too much thought.
Would love to, as it’s a bit silly, and looks increasingly likely to be the case. And if the whole personality resurfaces, we are just back to what we already have: confused numbering due to shenanigans.
So Ncuti is indeed the fourteenth. But like the fact that Jodie is *actually* 15th, he will *actually* be 16,17,18 whatever we end up with after the anniversary stuff happens, within the continuity (such as it is) of Who itself. That’s without mentioning the Timeless Child stuff, which absolutely cracked the options wide open.
Edi: if we are really being pedantic, that article called Ncuti the 14th Time Lord. Which is woefully inaccurate, and I am shocked, shocked I tell you, to find out in a news article that even Andred may have been a bog standard, non-Rassilon imprimatured Gallifreyan, and not as I believed, an actual Time Lord.
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Side question. What are the odds on Tennant equalling Troughton's record by coming back a third time at some point in the future?
Quite high I expect. He has taken Doctor Who fandom to the highest level possible, first by being the Doctor, then (possibly when Capaldi managed to equal his record…) marrying The Doctors Daughter and in a magnificent two-for-one getting the Fifth Doctor as a father in law. Christmas Dinner must be like an anniversary year, every year. So I am pretty sure we will be able to comment on how accurate his aging make-up was at some point, when he says Allonsy from beneath a hair piece in the 80th anniversary special, the only past Doctor not to be CGIed in.
