Trailer 3 Discussion Thread
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If that's what she says, then I'm out. Canon dictates she should exclaim "THE WOMEN!"
PG certificate in the UK back in 1989. Was still a PG certificate when the DVDs were issued.
DS9 was the problem in the UK. The British censors took a real shine to some of that.
Going by Fuller's comments before he was fired, it's likely to be a lot more than gays just kissing. That MA has to be for something, and I'll guess now it ain't gonna be for violence or a few naughty words you wouldn't use in front of your grandma.
I wonder how much of that was kept though, since what I read about the series undergoing some changes after Fuller's departure. It all depends on the network's view on what they think garners the MA. I've seen shows on one network that got an MA that I thought should be rated less.
I find it indicative of the general mess surrounding Discovery that it was made clear (how long ago was it? Last week?) by whoever's now in the front cab of this trainwreck, that the show would be no more than the TV equivalent of an MPAA PG13. Now, we get a trailer, which is only going to feature scenes in it from the first few episodes, with a big black MA sign slapped on it. That's going to put a lot of people off even before the show's gone to air. Forget everything else that's already alienated much of the show's potential audience. Clearly there's been no pre viewing of material for guidance purposes by whoever certifies stuff as there is with film companies and national cinema censors.
Can anyone in the US shed some light on who actually certifies TV shows? Does each network have a few people that sit through everything their network makes?
Can anyone in the US shed some light on who actually certifies TV shows? Does each network have a few people that sit through everything their network makes?
In an alternate universe perhaps, where the majority of people give a fuck about ratings. But then again, why exactly do you care? You seem like someone who wrote off the possibility of this show actually being good long ago.
...How relevant are the certificates in the US? Do people in the audience actually pay attention to those? Do people selecting the shows for their networks (not relevant here, of course)?
The whole concept of "rated-for" is pretty alien to me. I mean, we do get funny symbols and numbers attached to our TV shows and DVDs/Blu-rays/whatnot, too, but I have never heard of anybody paying attention to those. At most, theaters may refuse to sell tickets to obvious kids, even with false mustaches and all. But kids aren't a relevant paying segment, really.
Timo Saloniemi
The whole concept of "rated-for" is pretty alien to me. I mean, we do get funny symbols and numbers attached to our TV shows and DVDs/Blu-rays/whatnot, too, but I have never heard of anybody paying attention to those. At most, theaters may refuse to sell tickets to obvious kids, even with false mustaches and all. But kids aren't a relevant paying segment, really.
Timo Saloniemi
You summed up in a paragraph what I was trying to form into words as a reply. Once I saw the angle that post had, I had a feeling it was negative toward the show anyway.
I would also like to see the solid numbers behind the "alienated much of the show's potential audience". I've only seen more interest in it being gathered, in that it looks different than what more people have known Star Trek to look and feel like in previous TV incarnations.
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"Precious Snowflake" seems spot on. And as usual with the modern snowflake, passive aggressive with it, while completely unable to answer the points made. If you want to get down and dirty with me, then come out from behind your moderator sign, and we can play like adults instead of you engaging in the sort of childish behaviour you clearly seem to think you can get away with because of the aforementioned sign.
Would it matter if any of your points were answered? You already came out with a negative view of the series to begin with, and as with most or not all of the negative posters here, you won't listen to the points being addressed.
You didn't make any points. You just threw out a bunch of unsubstantiated bullshit.
The networks are each responsible for rating everything they broadcast on a per-episode basis (rather than the networks submitting all content to an external ratings board as is the case with movies).
How exactly the networks handle this would be internal to each network. Even without the parental guidelines/ratings, everything has to be reviewed by somebody before it gets broadcast, if only for the sake of quality control. So reviewing the content shouldn't be too much extra work.
It really boils down to industry self-regulation, with the MPAA as an industry trade association in place for decades as a buffer to keep Uncle Sam off of Hollywood's back and prevent the government from intervening and imposing its own standards and censorship measures. Other countries have a media content review board or somesuch under the auspices of a government office, ostensibly independent of the industry itself. What's worse, having a commercial industry set and regulate its own standards, or having a paternalistic government do it? That's a question for another day, I think.
While ratings systems are problematic for various reasons, I think it is nice to have some kind of guidelines about media content in advance so as not to be surprised by something disturbing.
Kor
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That's little point in reporting posts if you then decide to flame and offer out the poster in response.
Infraction for Flaming, comments to PM.
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One of the show runners said point blank in an interview that there won't be any nudity or graphic sex, and that the show won't go beyond a harder PG-13 level. The TV rating to tend to be more strict than the movie ones, I've seen a few MA shows that don't really got that far beyond what we see on the tamer network shows.
Now if you want an example of a show that is on basic cable that really earns it's MA rating, look at American Horror Story.
I do tend to pay attention to the ratings, just because sometimes I'm not in the mood for something really graphic. While I do enjoy things like Game of Thrones and America Horror Story, sometimes I'm just not in the mood for that kind of sex and violence.
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