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I've never watched any of those shows, specifically because of their contents. I've been told by friends that there is an episode in the first season of The Expanse that would literally make me violently ill. I watch very little new television these days, specifically because they've pushed the envelope entirely too far IMO.
I watched "Conspiracy" once when it first aired, and I haven't watched it since. I've watched every other episode of TNG at least several times though.
Even the one with Fek'lhr?
Possible religious fundamentalist off the port bow. Hard to starboard, gods dammit!
Possible religious fundamentalist off the port bow. Hard to starboard, gods dammit!
Mom and Dad won't let you watch adult content?
Do you know what scene it was and what episode it was in? I honestly don't remember there being anything that bothered me in The Expanse, and I'm curious what makes you that uncomfortable.
Aaron Harbards addressed the content level of the show back in July:
So that really does sound about at the level of the shows I've mentioned.Aaron Harbards via [URL='http://ew.com/tv/2017/07/28/star-trek-discovery-nudity/' said:
Some folks are just delicate, and that's OK. Before watching a movie or tv with my girlfriend I practically have to pre-screen everything 1st. Violence, gore, and even a hint of anything nonconcensual sexually and she can't deal.
Me? Bring the grit, gore, and darkness any time.
Me? Bring the grit, gore, and darkness any time.
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Oh, yeah, I understand that.
Just to be clear @Celestial I'm not mocking you or anything with my questions, I'm just curious what's to much for you compared to me.
The only shows that have come close to bothering me are Bones (which got really, really, really gory for a while) and Hannibal, but I was still able to watch them.
Just to be clear @Celestial I'm not mocking you or anything with my questions, I'm just curious what's to much for you compared to me.
The only shows that have come close to bothering me are Bones (which got really, really, really gory for a while) and Hannibal, but I was still able to watch them.
How did she watch anything before you?
She became pretty locked in to franchises she knew were 'friendly' to her sensibilities and word of mouth from friends who know what she can't deal with.
I guess it's like me refusing point-blank to watch anything with zombies in it - am fine with vampires and werewolves, but the moment we get zombies I tend to get a bit freaked out and I can't explain why.
The TV ratings usually list why a show or episode gets the rating it does. It's not a blanket rating were you have to guess. We'll know why the episodes have the ratings they do and I fully expect it will mainly be for violence and mature themes and maybe situations. Doesn't have to include language, nudity, sexual content, etc. Sometimes it's very much the topic of discussion that could get you the rating.
In the trailers there is a scene where someone is clearly blown out into space and we see Michael in space and her eyes go red. Being exposed to the vacuum of space will do certain things to the human body. If they show even part of that to show that effect (which is real science) it could get slapped with the rating as well. Melee kills will certainly get you that rating as well I think, more so then shootings I believe and they're certainly going to be more graphic.
It's not even about the show being streamed at all. It's about what is now acceptable on TV during prime time, even on broadcast TV. Gotham on Fox can be pretty crazy about what it's allowed to get away with in terms of death, etc and each episode gets hit with that TV MA and it comes out at 8pm EST on Mondays (soon to be Thursdays) and that's broadcast TV. A LOT of shows on broadcast and cable do a lot of things these days. Cursing is even allowed on shows on cable (non-premium) when they weren't several years ago. Some teen shows would likely not be allowed to cover the things they do now say 10 years ago. There are some episodes of DS9 that if done today, without change to the events with a bit more detail and budget could easily get that rating.
Again it comes down to what a parent thinks. Even with a TV MA rating it could still be fine for a 13 year old to watch. They've more then likely seen and done worse in a video game today. For those younger one will have to decide if they want the kid to watch. There are tons of kids watching Walking Dead and Game of Thrones right along side their parents or by themselves or with friends. In fact the TV MA rating might even make the show more appealing to younger viewers because kids always go for shows were the rating suggest they maybe shouldn't be watching.
That said they already said there wouldn't be sex or swearing, etc. So we can narrow things down.
In the trailers there is a scene where someone is clearly blown out into space and we see Michael in space and her eyes go red. Being exposed to the vacuum of space will do certain things to the human body. If they show even part of that to show that effect (which is real science) it could get slapped with the rating as well. Melee kills will certainly get you that rating as well I think, more so then shootings I believe and they're certainly going to be more graphic.
It's not even about the show being streamed at all. It's about what is now acceptable on TV during prime time, even on broadcast TV. Gotham on Fox can be pretty crazy about what it's allowed to get away with in terms of death, etc and each episode gets hit with that TV MA and it comes out at 8pm EST on Mondays (soon to be Thursdays) and that's broadcast TV. A LOT of shows on broadcast and cable do a lot of things these days. Cursing is even allowed on shows on cable (non-premium) when they weren't several years ago. Some teen shows would likely not be allowed to cover the things they do now say 10 years ago. There are some episodes of DS9 that if done today, without change to the events with a bit more detail and budget could easily get that rating.
Again it comes down to what a parent thinks. Even with a TV MA rating it could still be fine for a 13 year old to watch. They've more then likely seen and done worse in a video game today. For those younger one will have to decide if they want the kid to watch. There are tons of kids watching Walking Dead and Game of Thrones right along side their parents or by themselves or with friends. In fact the TV MA rating might even make the show more appealing to younger viewers because kids always go for shows were the rating suggest they maybe shouldn't be watching.
That said they already said there wouldn't be sex or swearing, etc. So we can narrow things down.
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That's show business.
Also, known at the Roddenberry model.
No kidding.
Interesting episode, but yeah, that ending...yuck.
Also, Wrath of Khan ear worm...
The thing for me with Hannibal isn't just the violence and gore, but also just the fact that it was disturbing as hell. Don't get me wrong, it's awesome, but it's definitely not an easy watch. I've found episodes of it harder to get through than True Blood or Game of Thrones.
EDIT: I just had a thought about what could be a good comparison for the content level we could expect for Discovery, the Marvel Netflix shows. They're fairly tame when compared to some of the other stuff on there, but I believe they are still MA. I think there was one or two uses of the f-word in Daredevil season 2, a side-boob in Luke Cage, and Jessica Jones got into some fairly disturbing stuff with Kilgrave, but that's as far as most of them have gone.
EDIT: I just had a thought about what could be a good comparison for the content level we could expect for Discovery, the Marvel Netflix shows. They're fairly tame when compared to some of the other stuff on there, but I believe they are still MA. I think there was one or two uses of the f-word in Daredevil season 2, a side-boob in Luke Cage, and Jessica Jones got into some fairly disturbing stuff with Kilgrave, but that's as far as most of them have gone.
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There's WAY more but I'm not too sure what ratings they have in the US or how they work. So I'm just thinking out loud as there seems to be a bigger 'issue' with same sex relationships there.
I'd guess it's more graphic content in terms of people getting blown out into space, or what the Klingons are up to, but my faith that people won't beg freaked out by regular happy gay couple is quite low considering all thats happened lately.
It was really well done in terms of makeup and effects; but if anything it was the editing that made it more graphic. Quick shots and certain angles tend to work better than lingering too long.
Personally I didn't find it that bad. I was more concerned over the suggested smell of the room.
^ Indeed! I'm only just watching it now and Will's entire journey towards the end of the first season was more disturbing to me than anything else. There was one body in particular that I thought was a bit graphic (don't want to say for anyone who hasn't seen it, but mild hint.... 'music'). But even that didn't come close to the psychological trauma within the show.
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