TOS Prequel #4
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And now they're making a third, this time with Spock! Such incredible vision, truly worthy of the Roddenberry name! Not that I pray at the Roddenberry altar, but it was pretty brave when TNG was created and took the basic concepts of Star Trek but went off in a new direction. He didn't populate the crew with descendants/relatives of the original series, only the ship had a familiar name.
I can't see how a series titled "Picard" starring Patrick Stewart isn't relying on a familiar character. And even with "Discovery" rebooting, the main character is still related to Spock, Sarek and Amanda.
And "Discovery" going to the future isn't the same as a series with new characters and humanity from that future. I would have been far more patient with "Discovery" if it was a show set post-Voyager from the start. Instead they felt some strange need to set it in the 23rd century and make the lead related to Spock and went for cheap nostalgia (we have tribbles and Gorn and the mirror universe, people know what those are!), more interested in pop culture references than expanding on the Trek universe.
Hey, I gave one of the episodes I saw of "Picard" a 2. Then my subscription ran out.
Well now, that's a low bar.
I doubt either Discovery or Strange New Worlds are going to let us forget it either.
[*Laughs in Sybok*]
I think my problem with it is that prior to All-Access, Spock was already an incredibly well-rounded and fully-realized character. Nothing they've done has added anything to the character, from my POV.
While not as popular as Spock, McCoy would've seemed to be the character that really needed more fleshing out, even now.
Spock is just a Lieutenant at this point, anyways. Almost all of his breakthroughs in understanding himself and in personal growth won't happen until TOS and afterwards. It's not like they can do much with Spock, anyways, at this point in the timeline and not incite a reaction that will make the look of the DSC-Era Enterprise seem like a minor shrug and a yawn.
It is Pike for me. I became a fan of Mount's acting though Hell on Wheels. Romijn just didn't impress me, in an admittedly limited sample size. Lets hope she has a bit more of an edge when Strange New Worlds premieres.
As far as Spock goes, we know the writers are going to step in shit and outrage the canon folks probably starting with episode one. I'll just continue to treat it as an AU and hope they can give some gravitas to material that has already been gone over in TOS and the films. Like Quinto's Spock, Peck's will simply have an accelerated story, in comparison to TOS.
I just hope the stories are more engaging than what we've gotten to this point.
I have a feeling they're going to make Pike, Number One and Spock the Big Three of Strange New Worlds.
But Number One and Spock have similar personalities... so will they have an antagonistic relationship and disagree like Spock and Bones? Or based on the Short Trek, will it be more of an underlying sexual tension? Or both?
I didn't get any sexual tension.I think they bonded as friends and Spock found a mentor.
Wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if it's announced that he's really the product of a secret Section 31 experiment or is really a Romulan or something and Sarek and Amanda aren't his real parents.
A true fan wouldn't wait until episode one.
They really haven't done anything like that in the past, so it seems unlikely
I would be surprised, given that I've actually watched a good deal of every version of Trek overseen by every producer.
Or maybe that was just exaggeration in the service of sarcasm - hard to tell, as clumsily executed as it was.
My point exactly! Why they have this need to try to overshadow TOS is beyond me!!!
JB
They already gave Spock a human sister, lifelong visions of a Red Angel and snuck a full-on mental breakdown into his backstory. That alone makes what he went through in 79 TOS episodes look like a piece of cake.
In Strange New Worlds he's going to go through a lot more turmoil.
Please no. Just be a crew and go have adventures that are thought-provoking, human, and have dilemmas where I truly don't know what is going to happen next. I am so tired of anxty, moody, broody, broken. Yes TOS encountered some dark crap. I've been there from the birth, and it is my first (really only) Trek love. But the people were essentially functional. No more breakdowns or sibling love/hates or . . . ok, I'm done.
All nu-Trek so far has moved past me. But then, most things I just don't find to be that good. PIC was such a disappointment. I thought it would be GOOD-good, not just Star Trek-ok-good. Kind of like how I'm finding DS9 on 2nd rewatch. Has some really good-for-Trek moments, but nowhere near the best in TV. Which I think TOS did approach in the mid 60s. Intelligent writing from real writers, often very good dialog, consistent characters compared to other genre shows . . . yap yap yap, old man howling at the moon . . . I'll just stop. I have hope for Pike, though. Fool me thrice, shame on me, though.
All nu-Trek so far has moved past me. But then, most things I just don't find to be that good. PIC was such a disappointment. I thought it would be GOOD-good, not just Star Trek-ok-good. Kind of like how I'm finding DS9 on 2nd rewatch. Has some really good-for-Trek moments, but nowhere near the best in TV. Which I think TOS did approach in the mid 60s. Intelligent writing from real writers, often very good dialog, consistent characters compared to other genre shows . . . yap yap yap, old man howling at the moon . . . I'll just stop. I have hope for Pike, though. Fool me thrice, shame on me, though.
Let's hope.
My point exactly! Why they have this need to try to overshadow TOS is beyond me!!!
JB
I don't think they are trying to overshadow it, I think they are trying to make money using it. If it doesn't work for you as a part of the TOS universe, either ignore it or treat it like an alternate universe.
Capitalism stops for no one. Gene would be proud.
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