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Spoilers Things that grind my gears about S3

maybe try before blowing up everything - possibly yourself included?
Blowing themselves up was not a glitch, it was a feature. Probably because they knew the Regulators wouldn't be so merciful to them after Burnham killed Osyraa. The Viridian continuing to fire on a practically immobile ship trapped in its hold presented the very real risk that they would lose their shields and get boarded again. If they couldn't jump out, there was no way they would've survived.
 
Even if that were so, that was not the impression Ossyra had given Vance in their meeting. So, they operate with the best information they had at the time. Which was an enemy force had captured a valuable Federation asset and posed an immediate threat to the surrounding ships and information that puts Starfleet HQ at risk as well. Even with a proper intelligence file the data points have completely shifted.
Besides, I thought one of the points they were trying to make was that Starfleet doesn't have a proper intelligence file on the outside galaxy these days. After all, Osyrra was the one to inform Vance about a Starfleet Deep Space outpost which was now engaging capitalism and was in regular contact with the Chain but hadn't been in contact with Starfleet Command and close to ninety years. If Starfleet Command is that cutoff from its own people, they can understandably be ignorant about the Emerald Chain, with whom they've maintained a rather antagonistic relationship with.
are we forgetting two huge fleets?
What reason is there to believe those fleets posed a threat to them? The Viridian was never running from those fleets, they were running after Disco, the fleets just joined in the chase.
 
Blowing themselves up was not a glitch, it was a feature. Probably because they knew the Regulators wouldn't be so merciful to them after Burnham killed Osyraa. The Viridian continuing to fire on a practically immobile ship trapped in its hold presented the very real risk that they would lose their shields and get boarded again. If they couldn't jump out, there was no way they would've survived.
I know that. I also know that almost everyone that first tried to use a manual-transmission car for the first time didn’t manage to turn it on properly on the first attempt. Great luck the spore drive is automatic!
 
Another thing that grinds my gears about S3. Apparently there was a trans warp conduit that allowed travel from Federation HQ to a planet full of dilithium (with a distress call coming out of it) in a matter of minutes. But the Federation never found it in 100 years. It's like, if you are going to establish that the burn makes space travel hard and have that be the central premise of the season, don't hand wave it away the second the plot needs you to get from point A to point B in under 5 minutes.

Also, the child's scream destroyed all the dilithium in the galaxy, but the dilithium on that planet was fine? The story was just so weak on so many levels.

I did like how they made Osyrra a little more nuanced in the penultimate episode looking for peace, but then she was back to a cartoon villain in the finale. What a letdown.
 
What reason is there to believe those fleets posed a threat to them? The Viridian was never running from those fleets, they were running after Disco, the fleets just joined in the chase.
the fact that discovery, under Osyraa’s control, and the viridian escaped instead of just destroying the HQs.
 
the fact that discovery, under Osyraa’s control, and the viridian escaped instead of just destroying the HQs.
The only reason they didn't destroy HQ was because Michael surrendered to Osyrra to spare HQ. All that proves is that Osyrra does have some sort of honor code, not that she was intimidated by the combined Starfleet Ni'var armada.
 
The only reason they didn't destroy HQ was because Michael surrendered to Osyrra to spare HQ. All that proves is that Osyrra does have some sort of honor code, not that she was intimidated by the combined Starfleet Ni'var armada.
i don’t remember this. Actually I remember the opposite (Discovery not being destroyed on Michael’s plea).
 
I know that. I also know that almost everyone that first tried to use a manual-transmission car for the first time didn’t manage to turn it on properly on the first attempt. Great luck the spore drive is automatic!
Rather, a great luck that Discovery is a fictional narrative! Otherwise, there would be no way any Starfleet officer would be able to fly an alien vessel or use a completely unknown alien computer interface written in an alien language and successfully input complex commands on their first try, but here, they somehow do it all the time.
 
Rather, a great luck that Discovery is a fictional narrative! Otherwise, there would be no way any Starfleet officer would be able to fly an alien vessel or use a completely unknown alien computer interface written in an alien language and successfully input complex commands on their first try, but here, they somehow do it all the time.
Reminds me of "The Naked Time." Spock keeps telling Kirk it can't be done but of course they do it. What luck!
 
i don’t remember this. Actually I remember the opposite (Discovery not being destroyed on Michael’s plea).
Osyrra was in contact with the Viridian telling them to launch their pesticide on Federation HQ's civilian population until Michael surrendered on condition that Osyrra call of the pesticide attack, at which point Osyrra called off the pesticide attack.
 
Another thing that grinds my gears about S3. Apparently there was a trans warp conduit that allowed travel from Federation HQ to a planet full of dilithium (with a distress call coming out of it) in a matter of minutes. But the Federation never found it in 100 years. It's like, if you are going to establish that the burn makes space travel hard and have that be the central premise of the season, don't hand wave it away the second the plot needs you to get from point A to point B in under 5 minutes.
As seen in the episode, it was risky to use. So space travel...still hard.
 
Also, the child's scream destroyed all the dilithium in the galaxy, but the dilithium on that planet was fine? The story was just so weak on so many levels.
You just made that up. If you want to be critical of something, criticize it on its merits not for something it didn't do.
 
You just made that up. If you want to be critical of something, criticize it on its merits not for something it didn't do.

Ok, yes I missed the part about the scream just making the dilithium temporarily inert, so I will concede this point.

As seen in the episode, it was risky to use. So space travel...still hard.

Still feels like lazy writing to me. It also didn't seem that hard but, maybe Book is just an amazing pilot and his morph ship is truly one of a kind.
 
Ok, yes I missed the part about the scream just making the dilithium temporarily inert, so I will concede this point.



Still feels like lazy writing to me. It also didn't seem that hard but, maybe Book is just an amazing pilot and his morph ship is truly one of a kind.
They mention them previously along with other nondilithium based ways to travel. So it's hardly out of the blue or lazy. Looked kind of difficult what with all the debris in the way.
Yeah, he's an amazing pilot, as shown in all the other episodes, This is not news. The ship is only as good as it's pilot.
 
They mention them previously along with other nondilithium based ways to travel. So it's hardly out of the blue or lazy. Looked kind of difficult what with all the debris in the way.
Yeah, he's an amazing pilot, as shown in all the other episodes, This is not news. The ship is only as good as it's pilot.

Still doesn't really explain why the Federation never found the dilitium planet that was practically at their doorstep. Presumably there are other amazing pilots out there who could also navigate those things.
 
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