The Walking Dead Season 6 Discussion
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Hux explained it well enough:
Exactly. If this seek and destroy mission fails to do anything--other than send Negan on the rampage, most of the ASZ residents are still sheep / target practice. The few experienced members cannot assume they can just handle everyone, or if some of their best are killed off, there would not much left to prevent the rest of ASZ from being wiped off the map.
I'm saying the characters need to embrace their never-too-far-away mortality, since in the past, they have almost lost everyone on more than one occasion. many times they almost lost everyone. Think of their dealing with Terminus--if not for Carol and Tyreese just happening to come across Martin, no plan, amount of bravado, or anything else would have prevented the Termites from slaughtering Rick's group.
True--and only two months after the Wolves and mass zombie attack, the residents are no closer to being seasoned combatants ready for the kind of people working for Negan. Their walls are not even secure yet, but they are willing to open up a large conflict? Or assume its going to be something they are guaranteed to win?
It's the design. Anyone is free to walk right up the wall.
I would like to see Negan and the Wolves delt with and trade routes starting to get made with the surviving communities. Maybe bring those cops back in the fold or even those held up at the old folks home back at the start of the series.
I would like to see Negan and the Wolves delt with and trade routes starting to get made with the surviving communities. Maybe bring those cops back in the fold or even those held up at the old folks home back at the start of the series.
Those 2 groups are several states away at this point and the gang in the old folks home is dead.
I heard that about the Vatos...but I was hoping that the leader made it out...and possible meet up with the Fear group. Speaking of Fear...do we do a separate thread for it?
I just started a Thread for Season 2 of Fear (and I guess the webisodes too).
Why are people assuming Rick and company are all just going to ride into Negan's camp, whooping and hollering and firing off their guns like something out of Blazing Saddles? We've already seen that they're smart and capable enough to recon places and make tactical plans, so why not this time? There are four episodes left. Plenty of time to gather intel.
Obviously it's going to go tits up regardless, but that doesn't mean they'll just go running into battle without figuring out who they're dealing with first. They're overconfident, sure, likely after they hit the high score on Left4Dead in the mid-season premiere, but also Daryl has them convinced (somehow) that Negan's numbers are exaggerated. Plus, they probably think the only reason Negan was so successful in intimidating Hilltop is because they're not really fighters, and have nothing in the way of ammo to fight back with.
Obviously it's going to go tits up regardless, but that doesn't mean they'll just go running into battle without figuring out who they're dealing with first. They're overconfident, sure, likely after they hit the high score on Left4Dead in the mid-season premiere, but also Daryl has them convinced (somehow) that Negan's numbers are exaggerated. Plus, they probably think the only reason Negan was so successful in intimidating Hilltop is because they're not really fighters, and have nothing in the way of ammo to fight back with.
It feels like the objections are like wishful thinking, like just worrying ourselves to death over the possibility of losing a main cast member will keep it from happening.
Because they've all but directly said that's precisely what they're planning to do. Zero fucks were being given by Rick, doubly so when he stated he was going in to get the guy.
True, but sometimes that sort of speech is just made for the drama. Then we see the characters doing something only partially related to the speech (and sometimes smarter).
On the other hand, it's certainly possible that Rick really will ride straight in and get a lot of people killed.
On the other hand, it's certainly possible that Rick really will ride straight in and get a lot of people killed.
Regarding the Vatos, in the season 2 opener--"What Lies Ahead"--the heroes discover the entire Vatos community executed, but it was cut, so its not canon in-series. In other words, they should be considered among the living until the shows says something else.
...and I have a feeling it will not be limited to the "big, single comic event," but other important characters, too.
After that little stunt of losing a panel truck full of supplies--I would have crucified him.
The plan: seemed doomed to fail--how did they fail to think Negan's crew would scout the surrounding area or watch? Did they learn nothing from the Terminus patrols, who knew they were coming?
Several characters being unsure about the plan screams "disaster - dead ahead." The photos of crushed heads should have been the biggest tip off of all, but this group is a little slow.
Carol: So, as I've always thought, Carol is not the heartless monster some WD fans believe her to be, as she keeps a list of the humans she's killed, left a cookie at Sam's grave and she's trying to live a different life. She's still the most layered character in series history.
Carol smoking seems like a psychological crutch--like the beginning of some sort of negative step to a down slide, in the face of her trying to change.
Oh, and I guess the "Caryl" shipper's universe just crumbled. So, Daryl's ready for....
Abraham: his rough break-up was an asshole move. Rosita was shattered with his "you're not" (the last woman on earth) line.
I feel someone will die--not for any sort of "balance," but to add insult to injury.
Sasha: she's a killing machine, yet she repeatedly stabbed the torso of the Savior, instead of going for the head, which would have prevented his pulling the fire alarm.
Gabriel: Very interesting turn. I hope he's only placing the enemies in the context of scriptural references, and does not turn that on the heroes.
Morgan: Somehow, many seem to think his peacenik stand will lead him to be an example at the hands of Negan, but I think he would need to see the next wave of brutality himself, before he modifies Eastman's philosophy.
Is he building a jail cell? Will he try to lock Rick up?
...aaand we have more kidnapped members.
Several characters being unsure about the plan screams "disaster - dead ahead." The photos of crushed heads should have been the biggest tip off of all, but this group is a little slow.
Carol: So, as I've always thought, Carol is not the heartless monster some WD fans believe her to be, as she keeps a list of the humans she's killed, left a cookie at Sam's grave and she's trying to live a different life. She's still the most layered character in series history.
Carol smoking seems like a psychological crutch--like the beginning of some sort of negative step to a down slide, in the face of her trying to change.
Oh, and I guess the "Caryl" shipper's universe just crumbled. So, Daryl's ready for....
Abraham: his rough break-up was an asshole move. Rosita was shattered with his "you're not" (the last woman on earth) line.
I feel someone will die--not for any sort of "balance," but to add insult to injury.
Sasha: she's a killing machine, yet she repeatedly stabbed the torso of the Savior, instead of going for the head, which would have prevented his pulling the fire alarm.
Gabriel: Very interesting turn. I hope he's only placing the enemies in the context of scriptural references, and does not turn that on the heroes.
Morgan: Somehow, many seem to think his peacenik stand will lead him to be an example at the hands of Negan, but I think he would need to see the next wave of brutality himself, before he modifies Eastman's philosophy.
Is he building a jail cell? Will he try to lock Rick up?
...aaand we have more kidnapped members.
And one of them is Carol, who is obviously not the super woman us fans of hers think she is. Oh, well, maybe now she won't get ragged on quite so much.
This attack wasn't a failure. They achieved the main objective and caused severe attrition to the enemy's side. They experienced a setback, but no military action goes perfectly.
The episode itself was done well.
This attack wasn't a failure. They achieved the main objective and caused severe attrition to the enemy's side. They experienced a setback, but no military action goes perfectly.
The episode itself was done well.
Was that a satellite station, or a radiotelescope facility?
Satellite station. You'd need an acre of dishes that size for a telescope.
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