But are the music and the FX enough to compensate for a bad story?
The TNG Movies or a TNG Season 8
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Absolutely. See nuTrek for futher details.
"nutrek"? What's that?
Ah ok.
It was time to TNG to graduate and change. Either into movies or into something different than it was at that time. Also, with more series coming, it was worth it to find out if another TV series crew could make it in the movies.
While it was time for them to go into the movies, there still should have been a stronger TNG TV presence in the other series, crossovers and such on DS9 and Voyager. They did a few, but it wasn't until Voyager season 6 that there was a regular connection to other parts of the Trek universe besides the internal world created for each series. (I don't include Worf joining DS9 in that since he became a regular cast member and was there for over half the series)
While it was time for them to go into the movies, there still should have been a stronger TNG TV presence in the other series, crossovers and such on DS9 and Voyager. They did a few, but it wasn't until Voyager season 6 that there was a regular connection to other parts of the Trek universe besides the internal world created for each series. (I don't include Worf joining DS9 in that since he became a regular cast member and was there for over half the series)
They could have changed by making up for their mediocre season 7 with an exceptional season 8.
I think they would have lost Patrick Stewart if they would had continued-
They could have gone another 3-4 years with Captain Riker- in retrospect, would 10 years of TNG & no "Voyager ", or " Enterprise " have been better ?
I say yes- the public has more affection for a singular show, than a "franchise"
They could have gone another 3-4 years with Captain Riker- in retrospect, would 10 years of TNG & no "Voyager ", or " Enterprise " have been better ?
I say yes- the public has more affection for a singular show, than a "franchise"
Are we certain that they would have lost Stewart?
The more I'm watching season 7 the more I think it could have gone on longer... they may be tired & running out o ideas but the stretch for new ideas could force some character growth. Even Troi doing the command test in Thine Own Self was pretty cool. Masks & genesis which a lot of people understandably hate, I find pretty creative.
I think I would at least trade Generations for a season 8.
I think I would at least trade Generations for a season 8.
This is a good point--the films did leave me feeling depressed, while All Good Things made me feel like their stories were going to continue. (Also, I felt the same way you did about seeing the Enterprise D and Data bite the dust.)
I've never made it though Nemesis, I have to admit. Given the choice, I'd really much rather watch almost any episode than one of the movies. I did enjoy First Contact, but I think that could easily have been the big two-part arc of an eighth season (without the bigger budget, but still, I think it could have been done). In fact, I remember being in high school when it came out--I asked a friend what he thought of the movie and his response was "that was a really good episode, but not much of a movie."
An eighth season would definitely have been a plus.
I think the production company was gassed after season 7. And it was a terrible idea to go right into production on Generations. They should have waited a year and used it to fix the plot holes that as someone smarter than me once said, were "big enough to drive a starship through."
Imagine if Nemesis was an episode or two parter instead of a movie. Patrick Stewart would play himself and his evil clone too. How fun would that be? The more they run out of gas the more they would do crazy plots like that. It's like that last bite of an ice cream cone where the chocolate is at the bottom.
Chocolate's not bad.
A lot of what was done in DS9 could've been done in TNG, or the two series could've existed side-by-side as STARGATE SG-1 and STARGATE ATLANTIS did for a while. What TNG did was run out of ideas, and the cost of the actors was probably climbing as well. If TNG had adopted non-Borg, non-Alpha Quadrant story arcs, such as exploring the around Bajor or exploring through the Bajoran wormhole, and had dealt with the meddling of Section 31, it would've made for a much better ending to the show.
I think the major problem was that Sisko was never a friend of Picard's. So they never had much in common, they never tried to work in association to resolve alpha quadrant problems. The dominion war also started too late so the Enterprise couldn't get involved, the show was already over.
I agree with that.
No. The main cast were under contract for season 8; they all signed two year extensions after season 6. And they were ultimately paid both for Generations and the unfilmed season 8. So, we would have had Stewart and Spiner in a hypothetical season 8.
One interesting side effect if there were a season 8 -- the ending of "Second Chances" probably would have gone differently, with Will Riker dying, Data becoming the first officer, and Thomas Riker as the new Operations Officer (or whatever Data's role up front was). The only reason they didn't do that was they didn't want to shake things up knowing that there was a movie on the horizon. Which shows you how long they knew that TNG was ending, since "Second Chances" happened at the end of season 6.
If Paramount hadn't wanted to launch UPN in January 1995, I think we would've had an eighth and final season of TNG, followed by a movie bringing Kirk and Picard together for the 30th-anniversary in the fall of 1996.
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