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The TNG Movies or a TNG Season 8

TNG Poll

  • TNG Films

    Votes: 14 31.8%
  • TNG Season 8

    Votes: 30 68.2%

  • Total voters
    44
Neither one was going to be a good option. The quality of episodes in season's 6 and 7 were abysmal. Moore and Bragga were burnt out and yet insisting on taking on more responsibility. Most of the teams efforts were being put into DS9 which was horrendously dull despite being the new favored child. Berman Trek was just burnt out by then. Either way All Good Things was the best send off for the series. I'm just glad it was filmed as such.
 
A season 8 would have to deal with that albatross.
Nah, just ignore it and move on. Just like they did anyway after a few weeks. :)

I simply can't remember it being mentioned again. I remember it was the supposed reason for Voyager having the pivoting warp nacelle pylons. Though I don't think that was mentioned on screen either.

It was mentioned in that USS Pegasus episode.

EDIT:

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Force_of_Nature_%28episode%29 said:
  • This was the first Star Trek episode where the maximum warp speed limitation was imposed by the Federation on all Starfleet vessels. Further references were made to the speed limit in "The Pegasus" and "Eye of the Beholder" later in the season. According to the unpublished VOY Season 1 edition of the Star Trek: Voyager Technical Guide, by Rick Sternbach and Michael Okuda, it was suggested that because of the variable geometry pylons, warp fields may no longer have a negative impact on habitable worlds as established in this episode.
 
The best thing they could've done was hold the "All Good Things..." script for the first film (with some tweaks) and did something else for the series finale. They had to have known they had a home run on their collective hands when they were putting the script together.
 
Bad as the films overall were, I'd take them for First Contact (a story that would best work in film and which the Borg and especially the aftermath of "The Best of Both Worlds" demanded), I don't see a season 8 being better than season 7 or coming up with one or a few episodes as good as FC.
 
TNG season 8, episode 1...

Picard - It seems the new upgrades got done in a good amount of time. Well done, Geordi.

LaForge - Thank you, sir. With this new space muffler, we can go warp 9.99999999999 without affecting the fabric of space.

***

Addressed.
 
Instead of jumping to the movies with that abysmal "passing the torch" story for Generations, a season 8 would have started off with a bang by using the First Contact plot--possibly a thre- parter.

Or, if the potential S8 scripts were following along the same tepid lines as S7, save the FC script for a 3-part series finale. In that way, finishing strong would encourage audience support of a move to the big screen, without the "passing the torch" crap, which screamed "we can't do it on our own" to everyone.
 
I feel like if All Good Things was a movie it might not have turned out so well... they might have done the "steal the Enterprise from a museum" thing which could be cheesy and maybe they would have shoved Kirk into it somehow... maybe the crunch time of working on Generations at the same time was one of the reasons All Good Things turned out well.

Plus I can't imagine how they could end the series in a better way. Imagine if the series went out on a Shades of Gray style episode.

Yeah the writers and actors may have been tired of it... but they may have been ready to leave already in seasons 5&6 and those are some great seasons. And there are some season 7 episodes I love. Despite maybe feeling ready to move on, they're still professionals and I don't doubt there would have been some great season 8 episodes.

Writers can get tired but who knows, maybe one day they get hit by inspiration and we get an amazing episode. Could have happened.
 
I feel like if All Good Things was a movie it might not have turned out so well... they might have done the "steal the Enterprise from a museum" thing which could be cheesy and maybe they would have shoved Kirk into it somehow... maybe the crunch time of working on Generations at the same time was one of the reasons All Good Things turned out well.

Plus I can't imagine how they could end the series in a better way. Imagine if the series went out on a Shades of Gray style episode.

Yeah the writers and actors may have been tired of it... but they may have been ready to leave already in seasons 5&6 and those are some great seasons. And there are some season 7 episodes I love. Despite maybe feeling ready to move on, they're still professionals and I don't doubt there would have been some great season 8 episodes.

Writers can get tired but who knows, maybe one day they get hit by inspiration and we get an amazing episode. Could have happened.

But if they had planned an 8th season then season 7 would have ended on a cliffhanger instead of all good things, don't you think?
 
A succession of mini-series over the years, would've been a really good way to go. This sort of perceived "entitlement" that TNG was supposed to transition into motion pictures kind of went against it, in some ways. A mini-series could've really been a strong start for TNG to enter into other formats and outlets, because the risk would've been a lot less and the success such a series would've no doubt had would've made all of that seem worth it.
 
A succession of mini-series over the years, would've been a really good way to go. This sort of perceived "entitlement" that TNG was supposed to transition into motion pictures kind of went against it, in some ways.

I actually agree with this. I hate that the movies have to have a sense of saving the universe in each one. It's a problem that's killing the new franchise too. Trek does work best as a day to day drama, not a one off epic.
 
I pick the movies. Flawed as they were, I find them far more entertaining and rewatchable than the majority of the TNG episodes.
 
I find that, as episodes, TNG is very rewatchable, because it made the decision to focus on Human Condition stories, rather than trying to make commentary on The Eighties, so much. In so doing, they've really stood the test of time. Yes, there's the women with their big hair and the costumes kind of suck and some of the sets really look cheap, but the message in episodes like The Drumhead, which can sort of be applied to issues like what the NSA's been doing, become surprisingly relevant. Sarek is another that comes to mind, which can be applied towards Alzheimer's, or just aging, in general, or the tendency of people to overprotect the ones they love, even to the detriment of that person ... these kinds of stories stand the test of time, for me.

11001001
(or whatever its title) episodes like that are just kind of throwaway and don't say anything relevant, that's true, but take that show, for example: there are many layers to it, the effects are generally very good and it's just pure escapism. It's not a lazy sort of script, there's care that went into that and you can tell. That goes a very long way with me, personally, when I see that they actually put some effort into it. But, at the end of the day, yes ... The Next Generation is the product of a bygone era and that shows up less in something like Generations, where the production values were in the millions.
 
Nah, just ignore it and move on. Just like they did anyway after a few weeks. :)

I simply can't remember it being mentioned again. I remember it was the supposed reason for Voyager having the pivoting warp nacelle pylons. Though I don't think that was mentioned on screen either.

It was mentioned in that USS Pegasus episode.

EDIT:

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Force_of_Nature_%28episode%29 said:
  • This was the first Star Trek episode where the maximum warp speed limitation was imposed by the Federation on all Starfleet vessels. Further references were made to the speed limit in "The Pegasus" and "Eye of the Beholder" later in the season. According to the unpublished VOY Season 1 edition of the Star Trek: Voyager Technical Guide, by Rick Sternbach and Michael Okuda, it was suggested that because of the variable geometry pylons, warp fields may no longer have a negative impact on habitable worlds as established in this episode.

When Voyager was being designed, the producers wanted *something* on the miniature to articulate, so I gave thm a pile of suggestions, from loading ramps to deployable warp boosters to shield fins, and the pivoting pylons won out. We retro-jiggered the pivot action rationale to the business about harming the galactic environment, but folks pretty much forgot about that. All ships built after Voyager (like Prometheus) probably fixed the problem simply by tweaking the M/A intermix frequency quantum recombination exclusion protocol. Did I just say that?

Rick
 
I would definitely take a Season 8, as long as All Good Things is still the series finale.
 
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