That's a fair point. With the multiple armed conflicts the Federation faced, from the Cardassian War, the Klingon War and the Dominion War, some advancement might have plateaued in favor of other designs.
Because progress isn't continuous.
The technology issue if you did a post-Berman era Trek show?
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Or the technological advance could have happen centuries after the TNG era as the result of a single significant discovery
Again: That's the very far future. From the 24th century onward, you still have 500 years(!!) worth of classic Star Trek, until the tech reaches a "too advanced" point. That's more than double the length of the entire current history of the Trek universe.
Look at it this way: A Star Trek series in a post-NEM setting (ca. 20 ~ 30 years after VOY and NEM) has about the same level of technology as... Star Trek: Insurrection and Nemesis. Did the technology in these movies felt "too advanced"? No. If you can imagine a series set during the time of the TNG movies, you can imagine a series set immediately afterwards as well...
All these other technologies, like time travel and slipstream? Still in development. Some for hundreds of years...
I don't see how the technology ever becomes a problem. It requires that different ways of dealing with situations and creating conflict arise, but that's not a problem. You establish the variables, and then you create the scenarios with those variables in mind.
Technological dystopia. Have all the advances you want, but also, figure out why they make life more difficult, and when they don't, remember that your enemies can have them, too. Generate the drama. New toys don't always make people happy. Maybe the photonic lifeforms revolt. Maybe improvements in sensor technology and an ability to move forces around easier (through better warp, better transporters) are leading to a police state. Even making people immortal using transporters or Khan's blood or whatever can lead to stagnation as older and older people desire to keep things familiar, and the rise of gangs and other ways of acting out for younger people who no longer have satisfying roles in life to move into because the older people almost never move out of them by dying, and overpopulation - which can lead to territorial wars.
"I never saw no 'miracle of science', that didn't go from a blessing to a curse" - Sting, "If I Ever Lose My Faith In You"
"I never saw no 'miracle of science', that didn't go from a blessing to a curse" - Sting, "If I Ever Lose My Faith In You"
That would totally eviscerate canon-time ships and slipstream drive and all that.
Unless of course your okay with eviscerating Canon.
If canon gets in the way of the story, then discard it.
Well, first, I agree with @fireproof78 to an extent, but second... how? I actually alluded directly to slipstream drive with what I was saying about the downside of the Federation being able to move faster and use the same resources to project force in more places. And as far as the canonical time ships go, you'd need to show me where any of them were provably *not* from a dystopian future. Braxton was nuts. Daniels seemed nice but was never clearly proven to be on the side of the angels, really - and, he had a vault of future information in his quarters under such slack security that it almost seemed like he was hoping it would be discovered by the right people and alter the time he came from. Even the Enterprise-J is no clear indicator that things turn out okay in the future - only that a civilization *of some kind* that sees fit to continue to build ships called Enterprise survives.
The time travel facets also bring more and more confusion, because the technology is rarely clearly defined.
Always had the idea of, now that you have slipstream drive ( And I would have a speed limit like when they first introduced it with the Dauntless.. 3 months to get back, vs the 10 minutes in and were 10,000 light years away bull)
Have a expedition to the Large Magellanic Cloud, maybe 10 ships, and 1 mobile star base, take like 6 months in slip stream to get to the LMC, and then you have a mildly cut off situation. For the show have, you have 10 ships, so 10 crews to show,and there interations with new friend, new enemy's, like at the mobile star base, worry of ships not coming back, home sickness etc. Lots of good ideas there!
Have a expedition to the Large Magellanic Cloud, maybe 10 ships, and 1 mobile star base, take like 6 months in slip stream to get to the LMC, and then you have a mildly cut off situation. For the show have, you have 10 ships, so 10 crews to show,and there interations with new friend, new enemy's, like at the mobile star base, worry of ships not coming back, home sickness etc. Lots of good ideas there!
The Federation has a major civil war.....all tech is obliterated, A new Dark Age of knowledge enters for decades. (The Vulcans, the former genius of the Federation, go into planetary isolation and closes its borders) a few people on Earth come across an ancient book called Windows 89.
A new tech era begins....
A new tech era begins....
By the second half of the 24th century, the tech was already "too advanced."
I'm sorry but IU trek is progressing to SW/Doctor Who levels of technology.
I think "futuristic tech too futuristic" was NOT the problem of Star Trek: Nemesis...
Just start on a standard 24th century Star Trek bridge, then reveal what you're seeing is actually a retro-futuristic virtual reality world. Everything in the VR world is mostly based on things that actually happened, but the simulation depicts everything from a 20th century view of the future. Kinda like their equivalent of steampunk. The simulation ends, and you see a slightly darker, more realistic view of the Federation with less fantastical tech. You can even have actors from the old shows reprise their roles, except everything that happened to them is slightly different because it's real and not a holo-novel.
Um that would thrash canon, and would probably make a lot of fans very unhappy.
A Trek series could fit into those few decades. It's doable.
The novels and STO have only gone about maybe 30-40 years maximum(I think if I doing the math right) but we know from Voyager's Future's End and Relativity and several ENT episodes the federation will be around in the 4th millennium and is approaching Doctor Who levels of technological advancement.
You could maybe do a 25th century show and you could novels and comics set in later centuries fine but eventually it becomes hard to have a story when the tech is this advanced.
You could maybe do a 25th century show and you could novels and comics set in later centuries fine but eventually it becomes hard to have a story when the tech is this advanced.
