Spoilers The struggle to care about the season 5 premiere

[Tuskin38]

I expect DSC's usual weak points such as overstretching the great mystery of the season

According to the early reviews

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there is no season long mystery, they know what it is they're trying to track down by the end of episode 1.

 

[Uhura's Song]

Is anyone else struggling to care about the season 5 premiere?

I just realized we're about 2 and a half weeks out from the start and I just haven't been thinking about it. I think this is the first time since ENT season 2 where I haven't really cared about a premiere of a new Trek season.

I enjoyed parts of season 4 that actually did some exploring of new worlds and new civilizations, but the pacing and other DIS issues bored me and it was a struggle to finish. I really hope that season 5 will make improvements and that the show can go out on a high, but from what little I have read about early reviews and seen in the trailers, DIS is going to DIS. At least I think they will be able to address overarching character stories and leave them in a good place. If nothing else, that will be a nice end to some characters I have liked (for the most part).

Anyone else struggling?

Nope. This is the most pumped I've been for DISCO since S1.

S4 was the only time they stuck the landing. The cause of the burn and the ending of S2 were the low points in the series for me, and the S1 finale was not a hight point, either.

This is the only time I have entered a DISCO season feeling really good about the ending of the last one.

 

[Uhura's Song]

It's literally the headline on some websites, that makes it a safe bet to say it's "widely known" to me. And really, anyone who wants to go in so clean that hearing the season might be a sequel to something is considered too much is probably better off staying off the internet in general.

Partly because of people like you.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Is anyone else struggling to care about the season 5 premiere?

I just realized we're about 2 and a half weeks out from the start and I just haven't been thinking about it. I think this is the first time since ENT season 2 where I haven't really cared about a premiere of a new Trek season.

I enjoyed parts of season 4 that actually did some exploring of new worlds and new civilizations, but the pacing and other DIS issues bored me and it was a struggle to finish. I really hope that season 5 will make improvements and that the show can go out on a high, but from what little I have read about early reviews and seen in the trailers, DIS is going to DIS. At least I think they will be able to address overarching character stories and leave them in a good place. If nothing else, that will be a nice end to some characters I have liked (for the most part).

Anyone else struggling?

Nah. I'll watch. Hell, I watched the car crash that was PIC Season 2 and the train wreck that was PIC 3. I'm an easy mark.

 

[KennyB]

You lost me at RMB......

 

[Firebird]

You lost me at RMB......

I detest how RMB managed to claw his way back into the conversation because of PIC S3 & being in Matalas’ orbit. I thought his abhorrent behavior during the Axanar debacle would’ve been enough to sideline him permanently, but unfortunately he keeps coming back.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

Enterprise-X?

 

[Lord Garth]

Enterprise-X?

Should someone else tell him, or should I?

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Someone else. I'm going to let this linger.

 

[The Wormhole]

I'm going to let this linger.

 

[Quantum21]

Do you have to...?

 

[Cr0sis21]

I detest how RMB managed to claw his way back into the conversation because of PIC S3 & being in Matalas’ orbit. I thought his abhorrent behavior during the Axanar debacle would’ve been enough to sideline him permanently, but unfortunately he keeps coming back.

Who IS this guy? And no, I don't want to give him clicks or even boost his Google numbers.

 

[BillJ]

Who IS this guy? And no, I don't want to give him clicks or even boost his Google numbers.

Part of the long running Axanar debacle.

CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar | The Trek BBS

CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens | The Trek BBS

 

[Cr0sis21]

Part of the long running Axanar debacle.

CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar | The Trek BBS

CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens | The Trek BBS

Thank you!
Holy crap, 1700 pages?
Anyone have the Cliff's Notes? lol.

 

[BillJ]

Thank you!
Holy crap, 1700 pages?
Anyone have the Cliff's Notes? lol.

Essentially, Peters started crowd funding for Axanar after a shorter fan film. He collected about $3 million dollars from fans, spent it on a studio, carpet and sushi, sold Star Trek branded coffee. All of which led to CBS suing him. Never produced the actual movie.

 

[fireproof78]

Thank you!
Holy crap, 1700 pages?
Anyone have the Cliff's Notes? lol.

Not really because it went off the rails a couple of times, with some staunch Axanar defenders becoming very passionate, and others expressing frustration at a project that appeared to go nowhere, while profiting off of the Trek IP.

Burnett's participation, especially his praising it as the best script he has read, and continuing down the CBS hate road in the process made him feel very much like an odd fan for Matalas to try and mend fences with.

@BillJ did a pretty good job of summarizing it though.

 

[BillJ]

Not really because it went off the rails a couple of times, with some staunch Axanar defenders becoming very passionate, and others expressing frustration at a project that appeared to go nowhere, while profiting off of the Trek IP.

Burnett's participation, especially his praising it as the best script he has read, and continuing down the CBS hate road in the process made him feel very much like an odd fan for Matalas to try and mend fences with.

@BillJ did a pretty good job of summarizing it though.

You covered the Burnett angle.

 

[cultcross]

I watched a recent podcast of Robert Meyer Burnett's show on YouTube. (Yes, I know the feelings that people have towards him. Let's acknowledge that and not try to derail the discussion.) He said that he had seen the first five episodes of the season and described it as

Spoiler: First episode spoiler

a sequel to TNG's sixth season episode "The Chase". I don't see how there could be a sequel to this episode; however, I am kinda interested in how this season will tie into this episode. He did mention something which sounds, well, very stupid and I hope he is just exaggerating.

Burnett said there was an avalanche on a planet. To stop this avalanche, two starships, including the Discovery, literally slammed into the planet's surface, protected only by their shields.

Overall, well, if you know Burnett, you can probably guess his reaction to this season. 'Nuff said.

Come on, let's not drop major unmarked spoilers into non spoiler threads. It's not fair for people trying to stay unspoiled for the season.

As a general rule, if someone knows because they've watched unaired episodes, you can take it as given it needs spoiler coding.

 

[Firebird]

Not really because it went off the rails a couple of times, with some staunch Axanar defenders becoming very passionate, and others expressing frustration at a project that appeared to go nowhere, while profiting off of the Trek IP.

Burnett's participation, especially his praising it as the best script he has read, and continuing down the CBS hate road in the process made him feel very much like an odd fan for Matalas to try and mend fences with.

@BillJ did a pretty good job of summarizing it though.

Not only that, but I remember RMB doxxing multiple people that were critical of the Axanar project in addition to generally being the textbook definition of toxic fandom.

 

[Tuskin38]

Even Terry called him out on his shit after Picard Season 3 finished and he started hating on the other series again.

 

[NCC-73515]

And JJA said the problem will go away or something like that