News The Strange New Worlds thread (news 'n stuff)

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by NewHeavensNewEarth, Feb 6, 2020.

  1. Yistaan

    Yistaan Commodore Commodore

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    Spock: My mind to your mind, my thoughts to your thoughts...
    McCoy: For the last time Spock, get your Vulcan hands off of Captain Pike. The mind meld's not working, just give up already.
     
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  2. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    Binary, my good chum. Binary.
     
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  3. Yistaan

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    I think if Starfleet told Pike that he'd have to spell out his words in binary, he'd just wheel himself out an airlock.
    It's implied the Talosians were able to mindread Pike just fine (otherwise his stay on Talos wouldn't be very convenient)
     
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  4. cooleddie74

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    I guess Talosian telepathy is more effective than Vulcan considering their species spent thousands of centuries refining it due to having to live beneath the surface of their world. Vulcan mind melds seem to be less effective since even what Tuvok accomplished in "Flashback(VOY)" seemed to take hours of preparation.
     
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  5. DEWLine

    DEWLine Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    "Do you want me to run through hours of explanation of how the delta radiation messed up which specific parts of Captain Pike's nervous system? I can give you that explanation if you think it'll help...?"
     
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    Part of Vulcan telepathy is the physical touch, though obviously not all of it. Perhaps the delta radiation made that more painful.
     
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  7. UssGlenn

    UssGlenn Commodore Commodore

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    Hmm, I suppose Pike would have been injured during the time when they were redesigning all the cyborg tech to prevent that sort of incident in the future.

    Morse code is much more efficient, as shown in Futurama. But Pike might have not yet mastered it, or worse that sort of communication is so obscure that no one had thought of that option yet. "I'm a Doctor not a communication historian".
     
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  8. Yistaan

    Yistaan Commodore Commodore

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    Yes Pike could have realistically communicated in Morse code. Why didn't I realize that in all my years as a Trek fan?

    Also I think Kirk and Spock knew it in Star Trek 5 the Final Frontier
     
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  9. Noname Given

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    It was a contrived plot device. At the time Paramount wanted to get some return on the 1 million plus dollars invested in the unsold pilot; but said pilot was so different (cast wise) from the actual series, there was no way to use it without a framing story that somehow involve the regular cast of the airing series.

    The framing story was: Pike was so badly mangled in an accident that the only way he could live out his life in an acceptable/comfortable fashion was to go back to a race of telepaths considered so dangerous by the Federation, that all contact was banned; and anyone or any ship that broke that rule was subject to the death penalty.
    ^^^
    If that's not absolutely contrived I don't know what it is. ;)


    Pike wouldn't need to use something as complex as binary code, Just beep things out in Morse code or some other simple 23rd century code they have to have in case of emergency where only non-computer tied in equipment is available. :whistle::shrug:;)
     
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  10. Tim Thomason

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    If he has simple aphasia, he can't communicate in any language. Morse Code, Linguacode, Ancient Hebrew, nothing. He can't even say "No". All he appeared to be able to do was give a Yes (one beep) or nothing at all.

    His ability to communicate was likely damaged by the radiation, even if he maintained the ability to process and determine sensory input, he lacked the ability for sensory output, until someone found out he could give affirmations, and tied that into his chair.

    This isn't Futurama. He wasn't tapping a foot pedal. "Yes" was the best he could mentally do.
     
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  11. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    Two beeps for "No."

    You know that all the "explanations" are nonsense trying to cover a plot point that was ridiculous - as was most of the wrapper story.
     
  12. Yistaan

    Yistaan Commodore Commodore

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    Amazing how we all have to accept recasts now in Trek, but even with the in-universe 13 year timeshift back in the 1960s, they couldn't just grab an older actor who resembled Jeffrey Hunter but just had to disfigure the character to justify a recast.
     
  13. Ryan Thomas Riddle

    Ryan Thomas Riddle Writer and occasional starship commander Premium Member

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    The only thing I have to say about this entire Pike fate discussion...

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    ... and you can quote me on that!
     
  14. 137th Gebirg

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    He's not saying "No." He's saying "Yes! Yes!"
     
  15. cooleddie74

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    "Chris...do you know what happened to a ship named Discovery?"
     
  16. Yistaan

    Yistaan Commodore Commodore

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    We have ways of making you talk!

    Pike: Beep.
     
  17. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Worf in the 23rd Century Premium Member

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    The Starfleet Inquisition rappels down from the rafters
     
  18. BillJ

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    I've been saying it is time to move on from TOS for a solid ten years now. Whether you call it an alternate universe or simply ignore its existence, the same thing. I would like to have the writers to have freedom to be creative, not constantly churn out greatest hits over and over again.

    And Discovery? The less said about it, the better.
     
  19. cooleddie74

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    They should have done that early in Season 1. :lol:
     
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  20. WarpFactorZ

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    Well, Pike certainly didn't get the Comfy Chair...
     
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