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The only thing I have to say about this entire Pike fate discussion...

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... and you can quote me on that!
Hey! You watch your language!
 
A throwaway line in Picard Season 2 will talk about how the synths have just left Talos IV and the operations to transfer Vina and Captain Pike into synth bodies was a success.
 
I just saw the casting announcement for some of the crew, and Yeoman Colt is missing. If Yeoman Colt isn't on the show I'm taking my toys and going home.
 
I just saw the casting announcement for some of the crew, and Yeoman Colt is missing. If Yeoman Colt isn't on the show I'm taking my toys and going home.
I'm sure those characters will be referenced or show up in guest spots at some point. Maybe even in a flashback scene. No way they keep Colt as a spikey alien though.
 
I'm sure those characters will be referenced or show up in guest spots at some point. Maybe even in a flashback scene. No way they keep Colt as a spikey alien though.
Come on, we all want to see Idris Elba and find out how Colt was forced to use Krall's tech on a hapless spiky alien to survive.
 
From the look of things, I'd say the chair was just barely keeping Pike alive.
It could be that the amount of Delta Radiation his body absorbed is continuing to degrade what's left of him.
That may be why Spock was in such an all fired up hurry to get Pike back to Talos IV.
Perhaps he only had a few more months to live and Spock wanted him to spend it with a lot more dignity rather than rotting away in that chair.

The Talosians may even be able to cure Pike in some manner.
Even though they lived underground, they obviously had a very advanced civilization.
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"Ash is instrumental in developing new shipboard technologies. He's at the forefront of helping make these ships stronger and more powerful!"

Pike(thinking): "Dammit. And he still owes me fifteen credits from that poker game on Emperor Georgiou's ship.

ASSHOLE."
 
I mean the new characters they revealed in the video. They kill that Noonien Singh character before they even address that surname.
People have been speculating online that she might be a descendant of his and have some abilities, which has lead to people saying she is going to be their Illara. She’ll be opening Pike’s pickle jars. :)
 
"Ash is instrumental in developing new shipboard technologies. He's at the forefront of helping make these ships stronger and more powerful!"

Pike(thinking): "Dammit. And he still owes me fifteen credits from that poker game on Emperor Georgiou's ship.

ASSHOLE."

And now you have discovered why Section 31 arranged that little accident with the baffle plate on that Class J training vessel, and why, despite significantly more advanced 23rd century technology in existence ten years previously, Captain Pike was confined to the beep-beep chair.

Ash will go to great lengths to avoid paying a poker debt.
 
You are all completely NUTS! I love it. :biggrin:

He is a damn fine handsome man, without question. I’ve seen many I interviews with him over the years, going back to the early days of Hell on Wheels and he always seemed like a very down-to-earth straight shooter kind of guy. Totally professional and just a kind-hearted individual. I honestly don’t think they could have picked a better actor to play Pike.

FYI, if you have not watched Hell On Wheels, do so. It's truly excellent.

Tying Burnham to Spock was not a 'nostalgia pandering' decision; it was a decision in the same vein as bringing Miles O'Brien and his family from TNG to DS9 or, in the realm of non-Star Trek, bringing Cordelia and Wesley from Buffy to ANGEL, both of which are decisions intended to give audiences something familiar to latch onto in a brand-new story and serve as a 'hook' to catch their interest.

I agree. It's the entire reason spin-offs exist. :)

I once had posters of the DS9 and TNG group pictures and one of the USS Defiant. Plus Jadzia Dax. Is that sexy?

Anyone who doesn't think Terry Farrell is sexy needs to be checked to see if they're still breathing. :lol:

Of course, the show is also centered around a man who knows his own fate. Playing with fatalism and predetermination is baked into the premise in a way that I've never seen before.

That isn't going to happen but if it did it would be awful, awful writing and make the Pike's choice in 'Through the valley of shadows' absolutely meaningless. Pike accepted his fate in order to get the time crystal and he is not the type character who will now try to avoid that fate. He's too heroic and noble for that.

The moment where he he saw his fate and accepted it for the greater good was the moment where he became one of my favorite characters in the entire franchise. I wouldn't want to take away from that moment.

All of these ^. I am really looking forward to seeing how the writers, and Anson, deal with this. Because this:
It's an issue because Pike knows about it. The other characters don't know their own fate. Realistically any normal person would be screaming about this from the rooftops and trying to avert it.
Pike is *not* a normal person. He's a Hero - and I mean that in the mythic sense. And that's why I want to watch him.

If that explanation would work for you, that's fine. Speaking for myself, that would be stretching like Reed Richards.
::Applause:: Damn fine simile ya got there.

Can we all agree, canon be damned, that the BEEP-BEEP wheelchair massively underestimated even technology for assisted speaking that came about 25 years down the pike (see: Stephen Hawking -- also, pun greatly intended). So, the idea that 23rd century tech couldn't be used to process his speech is incredibly ridiculous.
Awesome discussion follows this, but I wanted to briefly address this. I used to work in our state's Rehabilitation Services department. Technology is one thing - and most people have no idea what kinds of amazing assisted tech exists now - but as @Tim Thomason and @cooleddie74 point out, there are (and probably will continue to be) limits based on what kinds of impairment(s) a person has. If you are interested, google "assistive technology". There's useful stuff available even for (relatively) minor issues related with ageing.

Carry on my wayward sons (and daughters and others)! :hugegrin:
 
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