The Stargate Franchise - A First Timer's Watchthrough

[The Wormhole]

I read up on her to make sure it really was Janelle Monae, and it said she was one of only a handful of people to appear as themselves in this series.

Ah, I think I know what you're talking about. I'm assuming you're referring to the Janelle Monae page on Stargate Wiki, though they actually say "handful of people to appear as themselves in the Stargate universe" meaning the Stargate franchise in general, not Stargate Universe the series. Indeed, in the franchise itself there've been two USAF Chiefs of Staff appearing on SG-1, and the scientists who appeared as themselves on Atlantis. I'm pretty sure Janelle Monae is the only person to play themselves on SGU.

 

[bigdaddy]

Janelle Monae is awesome. She almost saves Homecoming season 2 all by herself.

 

[tomalak301]

Ah, I think I know what you're talking about. I'm assuming you're referring to the Janelle Monae page on Stargate Wiki, though they actually say "handful of people to appear as themselves in the Stargate universe" meaning the Stargate franchise in general, not Stargate Universe the series. Indeed, in the franchise itself there've been two USAF Chiefs of Staff appearing on SG-1, and the scientists who appeared as themselves on Atlantis. I'm pretty sure Janelle Monae is the only person to play themselves on SGU.

Yeah and I realized this morning I read that wrong. I know other scientists and Air Force dignitaries have appeared on the series, like the Air Force chief of staff in the episode Prodigy. Heck, We just had Bill Nye and NDT on Atlantis. I read the Universe part mainly because I have been watching SGU and thought (Wrongly) they were just talking about the series. Oh well.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Side note:

If there were still Stargate shows (or TV movies) being made today, they'd use the Space Force instead of the Air Force, wouldn't they?

 

[David cgc]

Side note:

If there were still Stargate shows (or TV movies) being made today, they'd use the Space Force instead of the Air Force, wouldn't they?

Assuming they hadn't gone to some sort of IOA-based authority structure for the SGC, and it was still administered by the US military, yes. I'm not sure when it started, but later seasons made it more explicit the SGC was under the auspices of the Air Force Space Command, which has now become the Space Force. The Space Force is still more-or-less part of the Air Force, though I'm sure they'll grow apart to some extent with time.

In-universe, the division of Space Command that was responsible for the Stargate and 30X programs was probably tacitly under the auspices of Homeworld Command and not the Air Force, but, since HWC was a secret department of the government that doesn't officially exist, it makes the org structure a little confusing.

 

[captainkirk]

Side note:

If there were still Stargate shows (or TV movies) being made today, they'd use the Space Force instead of the Air Force, wouldn't they?

Well, there's a door in Cheyenne Mountain labeled SGC. How do we know the space force doesn't already have control of the Stargate?

 

[JD]

Earth

I'm starting to get a little concerned about how the Stones are used. I think it might be confusing if they keep using the stones in a crunch like they have been, and scenes like Telford and Young switching back and forth while they were having sex is actually a pretty good example of "stone abuse".

I'm not 100% sure, but I think that was the scene we were talking about earlier that a lot of people were rather disgusted by.

I read up on her to make sure it really was Janelle Monae, and it said she was one of only a handful of people to appear as themselves in this series. That's why I was thinking something along the lines of the Bronz in Buffy, but they don't necessarily need to be singers. Still, it seemed a little out of place for someone like her to be in a series like this, which is why I mentioned the whole thing about how much is this series going to spend on earth vs. how much are we going to get on Destiny. It kind of takes away from the whole idea that they are lost.

This reminds me of one of UPN's original plans for Enterprise, when it was first starting up they wanted them to have different popular performing on Enterprise every week.

 

[CaptainXaviOfEarth]

Unsure if it’s common knowledge, but Apple have been circling a Stargate reboot for months.

 

[Jayson1]

We have been down that path with hopes of a Stargate return. Hopefully one will pan out, maybe even the Apple one. I just want it to be connected to the tv show and not movies but of course I liked the move well enough I would even give a reboot of just that a chance also. I always liked the idea if they did a reboot to set it in a alternate universe were the gate has just been found and you saw exploration from a fresh perspective again. Maybe the G'ould died years ago or are not powerful so you got new bad guys and everything.

Jason

 

[bigdaddy]

No reboot.
Say it with me...

No. Reboot.

There are 17 seasons of three shows. There is no need to reboot it. Star Trek mainly takes place in the 'Prime' universe besides three movies and only three movies. It would be like rebooting Star Trek after Deep Space 9.

 

[JD]

I think there's more than enough time to just restart it in the SG-1/Atlantis/Universe universe and just have a real world time gap. It's been 9 years since the last episode of Universe, that's a big enough gap for them to introduce almost any change they want.

 

[David cgc]

I also think being able to leap into outer-space adventure without having to redo the whole origin story would be the right way to go.

 

[bigdaddy]

I think there's more than enough time to just restart it in the SG-1/Atlantis/Universe universe and just have a real world time gap. It's been 9 years since the last episode of Universe, that's a big enough gap for them to introduce almost any change they want.

The Star Trek movies were rebooted because TOS was too old for another adventure. The Stargate people are doing perfectly fine. RDA might be 71 but he is in fine health even if he can't be an action star anymore. Amanda Tapping is only 56 (Someone check me on these ages.), no one has thankfully died yet. Just reboot it.

 

[tomalak301]

Time

This episode just stopped. It was pretty interesting, watching a Kino that hasn't happened yet because it was sent back in time due to a flare interrupting with the wormhole and finding out the disease was in the water supply. It was filmed kinda like the Blair Witch Project, which I found a little nauseating at first. I did like the character work though, especially from TJ, who I'm liking more with each episode. Still, I'm confused by the ending. Scott knows that the creature on the planet will have the cure to the disease, sends the Kino back and the episode just stops. Does this mean the episode doesn't happen or we will actually address this later on? I almost don't want to know because even putting it in spoiler code will kind of be a spoiler. I think I might need to readdress this one at the end of the season because this is one of those episodes that make me say, what just happened?

As for the reboot discussion, please no reboot. Stargate is so vast that you can play in the same universe with different characters. I would actually like to see a Stargate show where everyone knows about it, like 2010 but on a much larger scale, and without the threat of infertility.

 

[Jayson1]

Time

This episode just stopped. It was pretty interesting, watching a Kino that hasn't happened yet because it was sent back in time due to a flare interrupting with the wormhole and finding out the disease was in the water supply. It was filmed kinda like the Blair Witch Project, which I found a little nauseating at first. I did like the character work though, especially from TJ, who I'm liking more with each episode. Still, I'm confused by the ending. Scott knows that the creature on the planet will have the cure to the disease, sends the Kino back and the episode just stops. Does this mean the episode doesn't happen or we will actually address this later on? I almost don't want to know because even putting it in spoiler code will kind of be a spoiler. I think I might need to readdress this one at the end of the season because this is one of those episodes that make me say, what just happened?

As for the reboot discussion, please no reboot. Stargate is so vast that you can play in the same universe with different characters. I would actually like to see a Stargate show where everyone knows about it, like 2010 but on a much larger scale, and without the threat of infertility.

It's been awhile but I think the final Kino tells them how to cure the disease by how to fight the bugs that were in the water supply. I might be wrong though.

Jason

 

[tomalak301]

It's been awhile but I think the final Kino tells them how to cure the disease by how to fight the bugs that were in the water supply. I might be wrong though.

Jason

It does, but seeing if it actually worked is an episode in itself.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Time

This episode just stopped. It was pretty interesting, watching a Kino that hasn't happened yet because it was sent back in time due to a flare interrupting with the wormhole and finding out the disease was in the water supply. It was filmed kinda like the Blair Witch Project, which I found a little nauseating at first. I did like the character work though, especially from TJ, who I'm liking more with each episode. Still, I'm confused by the ending. Scott knows that the creature on the planet will have the cure to the disease, sends the Kino back and the episode just stops. Does this mean the episode doesn't happen or we will actually address this later on? I almost don't want to know because even putting it in spoiler code will kind of be a spoiler. I think I might need to readdress this one at the end of the season because this is one of those episodes that make me say, what just happened?

As for the reboot discussion, please no reboot. Stargate is so vast that you can play in the same universe with different characters. I would actually like to see a Stargate show where everyone knows about it, like 2010 but on a much larger scale, and without the threat of infertility.

Basically, at the end, they figure out how to get the cure and they send the kino back in time one last time where we can assume they do it and get the cure and save everybody who was sick. So the episode ends since we know what will happen. The episode does not bother showing them implementing the solution. We know the solution and can assume they are successful.

 

[JD]

The Star Trek movies were rebooted because TOS was too old for another adventure. The Stargate people are doing perfectly fine. RDA might be 71 but he is in fine health even if he can't be an action star anymore. Amanda Tapping is only 56 (Someone check me on these ages.), no one has thankfully died yet. Just reboot it.

Oh, I wouldn't bring back the original cast as the main heroes, I'd focus on a new younger cast, with the originals as either cameos or just small recurring roles. If they really want a returning cast member to have a bigger role, I would make Carter or Daniel the head of the SCG.

 

[bigdaddy]

Oh, I wouldn't bring back the original cast as the main heroes, I'd focus on a new younger cast, with the originals as either cameos or just small recurring roles. If they really want a returning cast member to have a bigger role, I would make Carter or Daniel the head of the SCG.

No, bring in new people, but it compares fine with Star trek (and this is a Star Trek forum). Just make Stargate: The Next Generation. But I would use the original cast as much as they want. Have Teal'c be the leader of his people, Have Daniel and Sam be floating around, part of the world still. Same with the Atlantis people, just have them still be a part of this world. There is no need for a reboot. But obviously 25 year olds would be more likely to run an SG team than a 55+ year old.

 

[David cgc]

Basically, at the end, they figure out how to get the cure and they send the kino back in time one last time where we can assume they do it and get the cure and save everybody who was sick. So the episode ends since we know what will happen. The episode does not bother showing them implementing the solution. We know the solution and can assume they are successful.

At the time it aired, there was a bit of a split between the people who thought the ending was a fresh way to acknowledge that we all know how reset-button time-loops work, and we don't need to see a denouement that everything is fine, and people who were still expecting there to be some other complication. There was even a Kinosode that spelled it out, which some of the former people feel rather contemptuously towards.

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I, for one, loved it. It uses the very format and tropes of a sci-fi TV episode to wring out a lot of extra tension and suspense, because things keep getting worse and you know the episode has less and less time to fix it. That was especially the case watching it live, when you've got a much more developed sense of when the hour ends than when you just pop it on whenever on streaming, without even commercial breaks to reinforce your sense of pacing from basic television literacy.