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The Stargate Franchise - A First Timer's Watchthrough

What version of Children of Gods did you see? Is the original “Showtime” version still around, with the random nudity scene.

If that's directed at me, I'm watching SG-1 using Hulu (mainly because I want to get some use out of my subscription), and so I'm pretty sure I watched the edited versions of the two CotG episodes.
 
If that's directed at me, I'm watching SG-1 using Hulu (mainly because I want to get some use out of my subscription), and so I'm pretty sure I watched the edited versions of the two CotG episodes.
There are three versions of the pilot. The Showtime “nudity” cut, the edited cut and the Final Cut. The Final Cut is closer to what the producers wanted.
 
I believe Christopher Judge redubbed his lines for the Final Cut to support the more "Teal'c" voice he had developed.
 
There are three versions of the pilot. The Showtime “nudity” cut, the edited cut and the Final Cut. The Final Cut is closer to what the producers wanted.

Hulu has the two CotG episodes split up, so it's not the "Final Cut" version, and there was no nudity in the episodes I watched.
 
Revisions

That was an interesting sci fi concept, a society that is linked to a computer system that provides them with a climate atmosphere that is breaking down. It's almost like a nicer version of the Borg, where the hive can give them commands to sustain the health of the whole. It's not my favorite of the season so far, but it was decent.
 
Lifeboat

The episode was kind of boring, but it was fun watching Shanks have multiple personality disorder. I also liked the idea of preserving life inside a consciousness to survive. Watching Shanks talk to himself as multiple personalities was fun, but the rest of the episode I really couldn't get into.

Enemy Mine

I''m watching this episode and I find it kinda boring. I did appreciate what Chak'a was doing on the world where those people enslaved him though. Looks like he has become a diplomat. The reason I wanted to say something about this episode was I'm a little confused about Daniel's memory thing. Did he get it all back naturally or was he just reading everything that he did. I think the second episode said that he was just researching all the logs but he knows about Chak'a in great detail I wonder if there was more to it.

Also, someone said that Season 6 would have less Anderson because of his schedule. You were off by a season. Season 7 I think we will see less RDA. It's showing so far in some of these episodes.
 
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Nope. He remains middle-aged Jack O'Neill in a teenaged body. Yes, that's right, the episode ends with a middle-aged man inside a teenaged body enrolling in high school with his sights set on all the girls, who are basically jailbait and would be illegal for him to do anything with were he in an appropriately aged body.

Which was one of the biggest criticisms with the episode's ending when it aired, that Jack O'Neill Jr is basically going to high school as a "wolf in sheep's clothing." On the DVD commentary the episode's writer addresses this by being surprised at this reaction, claiming it wasn't his intent when he wrote the episode.

You know what's really weird is he is technically only a few days old so in theory you could make the case the girls would be out of line. While he has adult memories it isn't even a situation were it's Jack who has been de-aged. He is a completely different person with someone else's memories. Dating would clearly be pickle for him. To old to date teenagers but to young to date adults. Of course the other issue is how would adult memories be influenced by putting them in a younger body. I mean lots of our emotions don't come just from society but our genetic makeup. Also even if your ignore dating just making friends become a issue. Not sure many teens are going to be into Marry Steenbergen and fishing at ponds. I mean he grew up in the 60's so lots of the music and tv and stuff he likes we be nothing like what the teens are into.


Jason
 
The reason I wanted to say something about this episode was I'm a little confused about Daniel's memory thing. Did he get it all back naturally or was he just reading everything that he did. I think the second episode said that he was just researching all the logs but he knows about Chak'a in great detail I wonder if there was more to it.
Yeah, at this point, Daniel's memories have all returned. Best not to dwell on the matter too much, the show certainly didn't.
Also, someone said that Season 6 would have less Anderson because of his schedule. You were off by a season. Season 7 I think we will see less RDA. It's showing so far in some of these episodes.
RDA's reduced availability began in the sixth season, as evidenced by the fact he was gone for an episode while he was with the Tok'ra and why there was a clip show. However, in season 7 it certainly becomes more evident. The producers even admitted they went several episodes without RDA or with him in a very limited degree so they could bank up on "Rick Days" as they called it for certain episodes where he would by necessity have a large role, the season premiere and finale most notably.
 
If memory serves me, it was so RDA could spend more time with his young daughter.

Side note: the appendicitis that Daniel had in the season 3 finale and the knee surgery O'Neill had to get at the beginning of season 6 were all actual things that happened to both actors at those times.
 
Yeah, at this point, Daniel's memories have all returned. Best not to dwell on the matter too much, the show certainly didn't.

Yeah, I suspect the memory loss served a useful purpose in the premiere but was not something the writers really wanted to dwell on too much. In the premiere, the memory loss served to make sure Daniel's return would not be too easy or too convenient. You can't have Daniel just return exactly like before with no effort at all. But you also don't want to have to constantly stop the plot to have another character give Daniel exposition that the audience already knows. So the memory loss was not something the writers wanted to keep doing for too long. Plus, it's easy to explain that Daniel spent time reading up on mission reports to get back up to speed.
 
Yeah, at this point, Daniel's memories have all returned. Best not to dwell on the matter too much, the show certainly didn't.

RDA's reduced availability began in the sixth season, as evidenced by the fact he was gone for an episode while he was with the Tok'ra and why there was a clip show. However, in season 7 it certainly becomes more evident. The producers even admitted they went several episodes without RDA or with him in a very limited degree so they could bank up on "Rick Days" as they called it for certain episodes where he would by necessity have a large role, the season premiere and finale most notably.

It was really a shame that RDA spent less time on the show, stupid children ;)
 
It was really a shame that RDA spent less time on the show, stupid children ;)

I completely agree. Like I always say, condoms are cheaper. :D

His schedule was even less in season 7 vs 6. I think 6 they said they had like for like 4 days a week and season 7 it was 2.5-3. They worked around it in other seasons, but season 7 it really showed.
 
Yeah, at this point, Daniel's memories have all returned. Best not to dwell on the matter too much, the show certainly didn't.

Yeah, I suspect the memory loss served a useful purpose in the premiere but was not something the writers really wanted to dwell on too much. In the premiere, the memory loss served to make sure Daniel's return would not be too easy or too convenient. You can't have Daniel just return exactly like before with no effort at all. But you also don't want to have to constantly stop the plot to have another character give Daniel exposition that the audience already knows. So the memory loss was not something the writers wanted to keep doing for too long. Plus, it's easy to explain that Daniel spent time reading up on mission reports to get back up to speed.

That's too bad. It was a nice selling point in the premiere but he's really back to his old self.
 
I was personally glad they didn't write Jonas as a Daniel Jackson replacement, and to be honest, I'm having a hard time with Shanks being back because he was the one who wanted to leave. For someone who wanted to find some opportunities outside of Stargate, he sure couldn't let go of it. I know how important Jackson is on the Stargate mythos, but i feel like the way Shanks handled this situation left a lot to be desired.
I've learned not to hold this kind of thing against actors. You have to remember for most actors who work in TV and movies, they're used to most jobs only lasting a week or two to maybe a few months, so I can see where they'd be ready to move on after a few years. As long as things didn't get ugly, I don't think there's anything wrong with them coming back if they miss it, or can't get another job.
 
I've learned not to hold this kind of thing against actors. You have to remember for most actors who work in TV and movies, they're used to most jobs only lasting a week or two to maybe a few months, so I can see where they'd be ready to move on after a few years. As long as things didn't get ugly, I don't think there's anything wrong with them coming back if they miss it, or can't get another job.

I guess it's the feeling of telling Nemec they didn't "need" him anymore. It wasn't his fault one of the stars of the show left.
 
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